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Mics for stadium recording
« on: July 21, 2019, 03:30:19 PM »
In 2017 I recorded U2 in stadiums with church audio CA-11 mics.
In 2018 I recorded them in arena’s with OKM II mics.
In 2019 I want to record them again in stadiums but don’t know which mics to use them now.

Any recommendations?
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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2019, 03:59:34 PM »
Depends on the seat and what you’re comfortable with
Mics: Berliner CM-33, CA-14 card, CA-11 card & omni, AT-853, Sony ECM-907
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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2019, 07:04:36 PM »
Depends on the seat and what you’re comfortable with

I don't think that really added to the discussion much. I'm sure he already knows all that, he's looking for recommendations.

My recommendation is a HyperCardioid. I've tape from a fair distance in a large arena built for basketball (not music) many times with Hypers and got great results. My friend Mark uses Microphone Madness and he gets incredible results, and I've used Naiants with very pleasing results as well. Both of these are "stealthy" if that's what you are needing. Good luck on your taping adventures.
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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2019, 09:19:49 PM »
I have a pair of cards and a pair of omnis of the ca11s but i just wear the mics on my shirt and don’t point them to the speaker system.
That’s why i think i can better use the omnis.
Mics: CA-11(c) - CA-11(o) - OKM II

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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2019, 07:47:09 AM »
I have a pair of cards and a pair of omnis of the ca11s but i just wear the mics on my shirt and don’t point them to the speaker system.
That’s why i think i can better use the omnis.

THats how i stealth and why I also made prefer omnis in almost all stealth situations. You could go with hypers as the above post states, but you’ll need to stand STILL to not ruin the imaging. I personally wouldn’t stealth with hypers unless I knew I could affix them to something
Mics: Berliner CM-33, CA-14 card, CA-11 card & omni, AT-853, Sony ECM-907
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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2019, 09:30:54 AM »
Listen
Hypers are only good indoors in arenas
If you are taping outside stealth
hypers will not be able to handle any wind
Cards for stealth outdoors, omnis if you can get the mics above
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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2019, 11:44:53 AM »
^ hadn't even thought about wind. Another good case for omnis imo
Mics: Berliner CM-33, CA-14 card, CA-11 card & omni, AT-853, Sony ECM-907
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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2019, 12:44:09 PM »
I generally run Schoeps MK41's - Hypers for outdoor stadium shows.  That's the plan for the Stones shows I am running.  I am always still so not an issue.  Wind may be but have had good results.

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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2019, 02:04:21 PM »
I generally run Schoeps MK41's - Hypers for outdoor stadium shows.  That's the plan for the Stones shows I am running.  I am always still so not an issue.  Wind may be but have had good results.

I have ran Hypers at several outdoors shows and had no issues. None. Recorded Toto, Kansas, Styx, Ted Nugent, REO Speedwagon, and a bunch of others.  I also find that running them indoors cuts down on the boomy sound if you are not sitting up close.
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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2019, 02:38:30 AM »
I generally run Schoeps MK41's - Hypers for outdoor stadium shows.  That's the plan for the Stones shows I am running.  I am always still so not an issue.  Wind may be but have had good results.
My statement above was very general
I ran 41v at Philly Stones with good results
Too many clappers screamers talkers to run cards
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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2019, 11:43:25 PM »
I generally run Schoeps MK41's - Hypers for outdoor stadium shows.  That's the plan for the Stones shows I am running.  I am always still so not an issue.  Wind may be but have had good results.
My statement above was very general
I ran 41v at Philly Stones with good results
Too many clappers screamers talkers to run cards

That's one of the main reasons I use them.

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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2019, 11:05:46 AM »
Depends on the seat and what you’re comfortable with

I don't think that really added to the discussion much. I'm sure he already knows all that, he's looking for recommendations.

My recommendation is a HyperCardioid. I've tape from a fair distance in a large arena built for basketball (not music) many times with Hypers and got great results. My friend Mark uses Microphone Madness and he gets incredible results, and I've used Naiants with very pleasing results as well. Both of these are "stealthy" if that's what you are needing. Good luck on your taping adventures.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1387700-REG/microphone_madness_mm_pc_12_mm_pc_11_dual_lavalier_hypercardioid.html?ap=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A514&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi9Gzp6zf4wIVzf_jBx3A8QkUEAkYByABEgLlf_D_BwE are these the pair hes using? Ive never really heard of MM before but Id love to pick up a pair of hypers.
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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2019, 09:00:47 PM »
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Re: Mics for stadium recording
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2019, 11:14:00 PM »
For the sake of comparison:
CA-11 Omnis from front row of rear field GA
Mics: Berliner CM-33, CA-14 card, CA-11 card & omni, AT-853, Sony ECM-907
Recorders: Tascam DR-60D, Tascam DR-05, Sony Hi-MD

 

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