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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #165 on: September 16, 2019, 09:24:24 AM »
On my humble Zoom F1...

Zoom's hold implementation on the F8/F8N is superficially attractive in that the menu allows one to select which functions are locked and which are not when hold is engaged.  However, the fatal flaw that makes it useless is that to engage/disengage hold one must use a key combination which involves pressing buttons that can stop the recording.  Not going to risk that.  Good idea on selection options, but very questionable engage/disengage implementation.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #166 on: September 16, 2019, 10:33:43 AM »
Most implementations of a hold lock only the stop, record, play, etc. buttons and not the gain knobs. The goal is to prevent the accidental stopping of a recording.

This is, at least, how the hold function works on both the Tascam da-p1 and the Sony m10
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #167 on: September 16, 2019, 11:43:13 AM »
Roland r7 hold locks everything on the unit, and doesn't impact the bluetooth remote at all.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #168 on: September 16, 2019, 11:56:41 AM »
I think most handhelds except Sony lock everything. The handhelds I use - Tascam DR2ds, previously Edirol R-09s - lock all of their functions.  If turned on in the menu, the DR2d's infrared remote bypasses hold (which is the prefered implementation IMO).  The old R-09 displays a small hold is on message on screen when any button is pressed which is helpful in avoiding a WTF moment when one does not remember that it is engaged.

Regarding more complex multichannel decks: Tascam Dr-680 is switchable to lock either all front-panel controls (except headphone gain) or all top-panel controls, or both panels.  In lock-both-panels mode everything except headphones is locked.  I can't recall if R-44 locks gain its gain/sensitivity controls or not, but it locks everything else except headphone gain. 

I don't tend to use lock much on these larger multi channel recorders, but almost always do on the handhelds.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #169 on: September 16, 2019, 02:22:01 PM »
I don't suppose the battery life is any better on the MixPre II series, but would appreciate it if somebody could confirm.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #170 on: September 17, 2019, 08:09:11 AM »
I don't suppose the battery life is any better on the MixPre II series, but would appreciate it if somebody could confirm.

I do not have a Ver. 1 10t, but on the 10II running 4 channels, and a mix track with a RAV23000, it had 25% left after 6 hours.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #171 on: September 17, 2019, 10:16:57 AM »
I do not have a Ver. 1 10t, but on the 10II running 4 channels, and a mix track with a RAV23000, it had 25% left after 6 hours.

If that's just on the 8xAA batteries that that sounds rather excellent. I don't get near that on my Mixpre-3 (Ver 1) with the 8AA battery sled.

At the moment I'm 50:50 whether to upgrade, but if the hardware changes have led to any noticeable battery life improvement then I'm almost certain to upgrade.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #172 on: September 17, 2019, 10:37:08 AM »
he said with RAV23000.  so a battery pack.  I doubt AA is any better than it used to be.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #173 on: September 17, 2019, 10:44:38 AM »
I do not have a Ver. 1 10t, but on the 10II running 4 channels, and a mix track with a RAV23000, it had 25% left after 6 hours.

If that's just on the 8xAA batteries that that sounds rather excellent. I don't get near that on my Mixpre-3 (Ver 1) with the 8AA battery sled.

At the moment I'm 50:50 whether to upgrade, but if the hardware changes have led to any noticeable battery life improvement then I'm almost certain to upgrade.

i wouldnt bank on it. same pres and it seems phantom eats up the most power. if it was a significant improvement theyd probably be touting it
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #174 on: September 17, 2019, 10:48:55 AM »
Oh dear, my reading comprehension has deteriorated somewhat. Back to 50:50 then.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #175 on: September 17, 2019, 05:18:01 PM »
i don't see why the hold function can't disable the gain knobs as well.  that would be a nice added option.
The way this is implemented on the tascam dr70d is terrible.
If a level knob gets moved while holding, then no level change occurs. But when the deck is switched off hold (maybe to stop the recording, or make a level change) the setting JUMPS to the knob location.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #176 on: September 17, 2019, 06:05:09 PM »
i don't see why the hold function can't disable the gain knobs as well.  that would be a nice added option.
The way this is implemented on the tascam dr70d is terrible.
If a level knob gets moved while holding, then no level change occurs. But when the deck is switched off hold (maybe to stop the recording, or make a level change) the setting JUMPS to the knob location.
Awful.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #177 on: September 17, 2019, 06:27:07 PM »
It's implemented decently in other recorders where once hold is disengaged, each pot must be turned back to the original position it had when lock was engaged prior to the pot becoming operational again.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #178 on: September 17, 2019, 06:48:06 PM »
tascam DR100 mk3 has some options for this

hold can be set to "off", "all" or "levels", i wish it had "all but levels"

worse are the recorders like the sony A10 where hold and power are on the same slider and unlocking it risks powering down if you go too far

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #179 on: September 18, 2019, 12:11:18 AM »
It's implemented decently in other recorders where once hold is disengaged, each pot must be turned back to the original position it had when lock was engaged prior to the pot becoming operational again.
That would be great. Too bad That Awful Sound Company Around Mediocre couldn't implement that on the DR70D before they gave up on the firmware!? Glad I have a MixPre6 as my "A Unit" now!


i don't see why the hold function can't disable the gain knobs as well.  that would be a nice added option.
The way this is implemented on the tascam dr70d is terrible.If a level knob gets moved while holding, then no level change occurs. But when the deck is switched off hold (maybe to stop the recording, or make a level change) the setting JUMPS to the knob location.Awful.
Change the record, man.

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