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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #150 on: September 11, 2019, 11:34:43 PM »
where are we at with a "hold" function?

+1 for this. easy to implement in firmware for the -6 and -10 with the * key
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #151 on: September 12, 2019, 12:08:22 AM »
where are we at with a "hold" function?

+1 for this. easy to implement in firmware for the -6 and -10 with the * key
short press=lock
long press=unlock

That would be a very nice feature.
I really hope would get that one.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #152 on: September 12, 2019, 09:59:51 AM »
I understand your claim. But I think you're making a category error here. SD didn't create the mixpre6 II in order to correct a "previously inconsequential problem." They introduced a new model because they figured out how to compete with their competition by introducing a new product with a number of improvements, among which happens to be a 32bit floating point data writing option, which, among other benefits, happens to address the particular (mostly inconsequential) negative consequences of an otherwise reasonable design decision.

Totally agreed that SD did not create the mixpre II series to correct a "previously inconsequential problem."  What I have a problem with is the recategorization of what was is still considered a previously inconsequential problem, which has now been deemed consequential in explanations of the new feature.. yet is still claimed as not consequential with regards to 24 bit operation. Can't be both.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #153 on: September 12, 2019, 10:42:08 AM »
where are we at with a "hold" function?

+1 for this. easy to implement in firmware for the -6 and -10 with the * key
short press=lock
long press=unlock

Also would be very useful on the wingman app (among numerous other things). I use the * button for ch 5&6.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #154 on: September 12, 2019, 03:42:48 PM »
where are we at with a "hold" function?

+1 for this. easy to implement in firmware for the -6 and -10 with the * key
short press=lock
long press=unlock

+2 (both thumbs up!)

I also currently use * for access to 5/6, but I'd rather use it for a lock/unlock function...
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #155 on: September 12, 2019, 03:47:31 PM »
Simply use a “short press” for star-select function.
And “long/hold press” for lock/unlock toggle function.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #156 on: September 12, 2019, 05:39:54 PM »
Simply use a “short press” for star-select function.
And “long/hold press” for lock/unlock toggle function.

thats great. preserves its functionality and adds lock/unlock feature on long press
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #157 on: September 12, 2019, 06:07:19 PM »

I'm gonna second this. Thanks, Paul and SD for "keeping it real!"
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #158 on: September 14, 2019, 07:37:19 PM »
where are we at with a "hold" function?

How would hold work considering the gain knobs? Put unit on hold, knob is turned, hold switched off. Then what?
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #159 on: September 14, 2019, 08:35:08 PM »
Hold is to stop the ability to accidentally power down. Every deck I've had with it does only that (from what I recall). Gain knobs still work etc....
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #160 on: September 14, 2019, 08:59:07 PM »
where are we at with a "hold" function?

How would hold work considering the gain knobs? Put unit on hold, knob is turned, hold switched off. Then what?

The Sony D100 has a hold slider but it doesn't "hold" the gain knobs. When it's engaged the user can still adjust levels with the gain knobs.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #161 on: September 15, 2019, 09:59:09 AM »
i don't see why the hold function can't disable the gain knobs as well.  that would be a nice added option.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #162 on: September 15, 2019, 10:08:41 AM »
On my humble Zoom F1, it not only has the usual "hold" sllder switch, but also an "auto hold" function selectable in the menus.  When that is enabled, once you start recording, the device is totally locked including level (which is a push button level so that's easy to implement) and the only way to unlock it is to press the "stop" and "record" buttons at the same time (as I recall it - two buttons, anyway).

Normally locking levels might not be a good thing because if incorrectly set, you'd have to actually stop the recording to change them.  But on the SD device, I guess if levels are incorrectly set, it doesn't actually matter.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming?
« Reply #163 on: September 15, 2019, 01:38:04 PM »
For its primary use cases (Sound for film/videographers/front end to computer) a hold button is not necessary, and would slow down workflow if used or set inadvertently.


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