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Your data may be priceless.


Make three copies.


Remember, moving files from the card or phone is not a backup if you erase the master.


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Also, make sure to spin up your backup drives once a month or so. It may seem counterintuitive, but they need to be used in order to last.
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Having one local backup (Time Machine) plus one remote (Backblaze) has made me breathe a lot easier since I instituted that plan.

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I tell all my music loving friends to buy 8tb hard drives. Then I fill them up for them....
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Also, make sure to spin up your backup drives once a month or so. It may seem counterintuitive, but they need to be used in order to last.
Gotta move the grease around to make sure it still moves around!??!?
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I'm literally looking at six 8TB hard drives sitting next to my laptop. Most are more than half full, some almost completely. Keeping three copies total would probably cost me another $2400, at $200 a drive.

Can you believe i also have a 4TB portable drive completely filled up with just my audio recordings? And a 2TB portable drive of just hi-resolution vinyl rips?

My two biggest concerns at the moment is

1) poor organization/labeling of my 10-years-worth of concert sources, especially when I was using a main as well as backup recorder at shows  (no solution, really, other than to go through everything slowly and sort/label the keepers and delete the dupes) and

2) how to back up so much data. Tape? Some kind of optical storage I don't know about? Clay tablets?

Any wisdom or humorous thoughts are welcome.
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Keeping three copies total would probably cost me another $2400, at $200 a drive.
8TB drives go for about $140 lately - there was a lot of price lowering this past fall!
Try keeping one extra copy of the most important bits, and interest your friends in buying drives to enjoy your files, and keep as off-site?!
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Keeping three copies total would probably cost me another $2400, at $200 a drive.
8TB drives go for about $140 lately - there was a lot of price lowering this past fall!
Try keeping one extra copy of the most important bits, and interest your friends in buying drives to enjoy your files, and keep as off-site?!

Morst, you are spot on about this.  These drives which I purchased earlier this year for $189 are going for $140 now. Thanks,

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Morst, you are spot on about this.  These drives which I purchased earlier this year for $189 are going for $140 now. Thanks,
https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expansion-Desktop-External-STEB8000100/dp/B01HAPGEIE/ref=pd_sbs_147_t_0/135-0705087-9198220
Cool, Seagate failed me for the last time in my personal life in 2009 and so I switched to WD drives. The Seagates usually lead in the price/TB category but I found 14TB WD externals at a major USA retailer, initials BB, for $200 each. That's 14.29/TB before tax! The giant drives take forever to copy too, so I'm sticking with 8's and 10's when I need more storage. Most of my stuff fits in a little over 16TB , so I pretty just much just need 9 drives of 8TB or larger. I number them 4A, 4B,  6A, 6B, 8A, 8B, 8C, 8D, 10A, 10B, etc (according to their size and the order which I bought them)


I use Disktracker for Mac to scan all drives, and I usually keep the main "All-Drives-Working" document open at all times so I can search in offline volumes. Disktracker is a little buggy, but I finally paid for it. I find it essential.
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for offsite I have a small safety deposit box that cost like $30 a year or something.  easily fits 6 or more internal drives (I use internals in a dock).  I rotate the onsite and offsite drives once a month or so.
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Re: Happy New Year. BACK UP YOUR DATA! Three copies is best! Storage is cheap!
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2020, 03:43:08 PM »
Saving files to DVDs is also a cheap and easy way to make backups.  SSD drives are cheaper than they were.  I got a 1TB one for $129.

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Re: Happy New Year. BACK UP YOUR DATA! Three copies is best! Storage is cheap!
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2020, 04:06:38 PM »
SSDs are probably fine for backup storage if they get re-written in a regular basis. But they would not be good for archival storage, similar to SD cards.
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Re: Happy New Year. BACK UP YOUR DATA! Three copies is best! Storage is cheap!
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2020, 04:12:06 PM »
SSDs are probably fine for backup storage if they get re-written in a regular basis. But they would not be good for archival storage, similar to SD cards.
Is that from personal experience, or have you been reading the fear mongering about how SSDs will crap out if they get a little warm?
(I still rely on spinning rust for most of my backup needs)
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