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Re:On stage recording?
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2003, 01:35:55 AM »
However, the other noteworthy deficiency is the lack of any effects that are applied by the FOH engineer (ie. reverb, delay, etc...).

Unless the drummer is playing a well-tuned Noble&Cooley kit I'd rather hear the drums coming through the PA  :)

Stage tapes do sound wonderful but I definitely miss having a nice tight and fat kick drum with some nice verb on the snare and toms. A few gates and compressors do some drums wonders..

I really like on stage tapes but the lack of foh processing is noticeable...

Of course you can forget I said any of that if it is some straight swinging jazz... then totally acoustic drums sound fantastic.

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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2003, 05:26:24 AM »
  I kind of prefer stage taping in some of the venues around town. The tapes have a sureal form of intimacy, on playback it can sound as if your sitting on the stage between the musicians. Maybe it's also b/c it's like sleeping with a stranger, you don't get to do it all the time but when you do it sure is alot of fun ;D
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2003, 09:44:24 AM »
I think stage taping works really well with bands without vocals...  Anything Jazz or jazz-derived seems like a perfect target for it.  I don't think some jam bands would come out really great for stage taping, I do think they need the FOH processing to get their "sound."  And music without the vocals in a band like, say, Guster, wouldn't sound very good (although I'd love to capture those congas acoustic).

But for someone like Scofield, it's heaven, pure heaven.

Maybe it's years of being an audiophile that have done it to me, but I expect to be front and center with the musicians almost life-size.  I don't like the "i'm way off in the taper section feel."  Stage taping comes closest to what I expect from an well-recorded album.

Unless the band is all amplified, I don't think you need to add any effects for depth.  Drum kits come out beautifully 3-d, as well as acoustic guitar, trumpet (any horn really), not sure about strings.  Amplified electric still retains it's sense of space in the recording, too; I ran DIN (ORTF might also be a good choice) to add a little time-delay into the recording, as I surmise this gives the amplified instruments more depth.

Dunno, it's all new to me...  but i think it's definitely the way to go with jazzy acts if they allow it.

Speaking of which, does MMW?  Vida Blue?  JMP?  Does anyone know of a list of bands that allow stage taping?  The only way I found out for the last show is a fellow taper clued me in ;)

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Re:On stage recording?
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2003, 11:44:51 AM »
carlbeck wrote:
>Maybe it's also b/c it's like sleeping with a stranger, you don't get to do it all the time but >when you do it sure is alot of fun

Hi Carl (and All),

That could well be the funniest analogy I have ever heard. : )

Hmmh, let me think, stage tape, another woman, stage tape, another woman.  I'm married.  Better go for the tape.

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Re:On stage recording?
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2003, 12:10:41 PM »
Vida Blue allows Stage Taping?  hadn't heard that.  seeing them tomorrow night in Chicago.   ::)

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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2003, 12:18:15 PM »
I asked *if* they allow it, not saying they do!  ;)

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Re:On stage recording?
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2003, 02:28:41 PM »
pretty sure they don't.  thought you might be on to something there though.  ;)

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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2003, 02:44:05 PM »
nope....all the side projects have the same audio recording policy as phish.  :\'(
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