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Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« on: April 09, 2003, 03:17:25 PM »
Hey all...I have a question for you 4(1)v users:
Have you guys run them horizontal in the ORTF position and liked the results?  I haven't heard any tapes from this positioning and am wondering how the results are compared to running them in the standard vertical position.  
I am assuming the pickup pattern is the same either way because the mic itself doesn't know what direction it's facing, but would the shell do anything to it?  
Do you guys prefer the horizontal pattern over the vertical pattern in the setup?  I just am interested in hearing what you have to say.  peace
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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2003, 04:08:19 PM »
when I run the fours, I usually run them XY, emulating the XY4V thing. I figure if schoeps does it that way, it's good enough for me!



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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2003, 04:49:08 PM »
i ran the 4v's for summer tour 99 and was less than satisfied with the results.  at the time i was running into the old vms box.  when i ran them i ran them both vertically and ortf.  there is definitely a difference in the sound depending on which way you run them.  i liked them more when i ran them ortf.  i used the schoeps stc bar.  to do this it looks like the mics are facing the back of the room.  for my tastes, though, i just could not see me taping the majority of shows with them.  i thought the bass was a little muddy and the highs were too brittle.  kinda overexaggerated and electronic sounding to my ears.  

now, having said that, i have heard MANY nice tapes bri and others have pulled with these mics.  usually the tapes i like with them are in small venues up front.  that is where i believe they tend to shine.  anyway, i got the 41's after that tour and have never been happier.    the highs on the 41's are so sweet!!!!!   imo, it is the best all around cap schoeps makes.

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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2003, 05:00:08 PM »
so, so far you think they are best to run em like they look like they are facing backwards when you are close up?  
I thought that maybe the pickup pattern would change as well, as it sounds like it may have when you ran em in that position.
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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2003, 05:06:22 PM »
I agree, the mk41 is a great cap and can be used in almost any situation.
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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2003, 05:35:17 PM »
the ONLY way you can configure the 4v's or 41v's in ortf is to run them backwards.
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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2003, 06:58:50 PM »
Where'd you guys buy your Schoeps?

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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2003, 08:21:59 PM »
I got a great package deal on a pair of cmc5 with mk41 caps from Soundpure.com. Not sure what the prices are with the increase, I got that set for $1800
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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2003, 09:15:53 PM »
the ONLY way you can configure the 4v's or 41v's in ortf is to run them backwards.
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Interesting!  That answers it...+T peace
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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2003, 11:41:52 AM »
the ONLY way you can configure the 4v's or 41v's in ortf is to run them backwards.
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Not necessarily true.  I have seen several folks run them on a sliding bar using the mini clips that schoeps sells.  Not as easy to set up as using the stcg bar and running it backwards, but for the purists, this is the way to go.  Also, Robert Kwon was telling me that he is producing a vertical bar for the v series w/ actives.  Just like the stcg bar, but the holes allow them to stand straight up.  You adjust the degree of orientation to suit your needs.  He also makes a DIN bar(one 17cm/90deg and another 20cm/90deg).  They are machined to perfection just like the stcg bar, except it is black.

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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2003, 11:51:32 AM »
i believe those bars are available at cascademedia if not straight from robert himself, do you have his email william and would he mind you posting it?
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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2003, 02:00:25 PM »
Email me if interested and I will email Robert.  I doubt that he would care, but cosidering that he always posts anon on other boards, he might want to deal with it.  As far as cascade goes, they have pictures on their site.  DIN, DIN-A, and NOS...  and no, I am not affiliated with either.  I just hate seeing sources with people running 41's with the stcg bar just because they have active cables.  Yes, there is a better way  ::)

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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2003, 02:20:02 PM »
I love the 4V's and generally run them backwards on the STC bar (because I'm lazy like that).  The thing is though, it's not really ortf.  It's just about 17cm of spacing (probably closer to 15cm, in reality) and 70* included angle, not 110* like the ortf spec.

I'd be interested in a bar that would do multiple configs easy though :)


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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2003, 02:26:17 PM »
I don't run the 4v's but I have compared them the the 4's and the diaphragms looked to me like the line up correctly.  I could be wrong.  Anybody else tried this?  

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Re:Schoeps MK4(1)v users q
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2003, 02:54:23 PM »
thanks for the info william!!!  +T  ;D
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