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AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« on: April 15, 2003, 10:02:35 PM »
Hey all,

Just wondering if anybody uses AB microphone patterns?  Can you tell us the positive and negative aspects of this pattern?  Is there ever a time when this is the BEST pattern to run?  Any opinions would be much appreciated.

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Re:AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2003, 02:16:50 PM »
I have heard tapes with ab configs, seen them run that way, and have always hated the results.  I have never run that way, and probably never will.  The seperation just isn't there for me!  However, YMMV.

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Re:AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2003, 02:55:12 PM »
haven't heard of that config, how does it work?
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Re:AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2003, 03:02:12 PM »
Well, the way it looks to me, you point two mics straight ahead, spread a certain distance...can';t remember the distance, but it is on the dpa page.

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Re:AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2003, 03:23:31 PM »
one of my friends ran this way at hampton '99 and i believe oswego and the results sound like crap....NO seperation, for me, at all.....it sound a little studio-esque in a BAD way though..... stay away from that...... ;)

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Re:AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2003, 03:46:39 PM »
mike,
  have you ever tried the jeklen disc??? i have always wanted to try it out to see the seperation.... :D and would you need to use omnis or could you just throw some cards on there as well??? and what spacing??? i know theres many threads out there on this, but i would like to hear peoples personal comments..... ;D

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Re:AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2003, 07:26:09 PM »
Thanks everyone... that's pretty much what I thought, but I wanted to see if anyone has ever pulled that odd gem from this pattern.  I actually heard a Dave and Tim tape (AB with 480's) that sounded excellent.  Mostly the clarity sounded good though, and the separation wasn't horrible... but then again, I was listening on a Grace 901 -> HD580 headphones.... that setup could make pretty much anything sound good.

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Re:AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2003, 07:31:41 PM »
mike,
 
thanks for the cool info.....i just might have to try that one out this summer.....especially at moedown and all good.....my 480's might like the j-disc... ;) +T to you you mike... ;D

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Re:AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2003, 09:22:51 PM »
AB sounds OK on headphones, but sounds like sh|t on a hifi, IMO.

The reason it sounds OK on headphones is it has very little channel separation and lots of channel bleed :)  That helps combat the "image on a string" inside your head feeling.

I have quite a few older tapes made with AB, sounded great and "soundboardy" when I used to listen on a $30 walkman in college.  Sounds like crap now.  IMO I'm with the bean: stay away.

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Re:AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2003, 09:52:14 PM »
AB sounds OK on headphones, but sounds like sh|t on a hifi, IMO.

The reason it sounds OK on headphones is it has very little channel separation and lots of channel bleed :)  That helps combat the "image on a string" inside your head feeling.

I have quite a few older tapes made with AB, sounded great and "soundboardy" when I used to listen on a $30 walkman in college.  Sounds like crap now.  IMO I'm with the bean: stay away.

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Re:AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2003, 09:03:17 AM »
Bean and I are going to spread the DIN word and make people stop pointing their $3k mics at the stacks  ::)

I'm taping a few of the guys from hookah tonight at an acoustic show (Dave and Ed)..  Let's see...  I got free tiks to John Mullins 5/2...  Big Wu 5/9 (not sure 'bout that one yet)...  Umphree's McGee 5/16...  Les Claypool 5/14 I think.

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Re:AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2003, 09:20:05 AM »
DIN is one of my favorites with the mk41, have to try is also with the mk4, but I usually like ORTF with those
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Re:AB mic config? Anybody use? thoughts?
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2003, 03:55:57 PM »
lets spread the DIN word ;D yeah, it kills me too when i see schoeps or b+k's pointing at the stacks....thats why i prefer my 481's cause i know what i'm doin w/ them ;D

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