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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #60 on: April 26, 2018, 03:13:15 PM »
I've posted this before, but will add it again here just based on the Perfect Stealth Rig thread topic-

My "almost-perfect stealth rig" would use a 4 or 5 channel d:Vice > phone.  Alas, such a device does not exist.  The current d:Vice is 2ch only and it doesn't appear that two can be run simultaneously into a single phone, which would make for a non-perfect work-around anyway.

My "perfect stealth rig" would use a custom-built very small, single-purpose, multichannel recorder with mic powering built in.  I would need to run some tests to confirm the number of channels I'd really require in my "perfect rig", but it would be somewhere between 5 and 8.  I keep my eye on the DIY recorder threads here with this as a long-term goal.
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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #61 on: April 26, 2018, 03:27:13 PM »
I'm curious how you would run 4 or 5 mics in a stealth setting :)  (While this question is pretty much academic since the pre/recorder for it doesn't exist, as you noted, it would be an interesting thought experiment...for PMs of course.)
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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #62 on: April 26, 2018, 03:31:43 PM »
I've run 4 channel for the past 10+ years.  The DR2d is what makes it manageable.  I started doing it using two separate R-09s and sync'ing the resulting files afterwards, a PITA but was worth it to me.

Hit me up by PM if interested to discuss the hows and whys.
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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #63 on: April 26, 2018, 03:51:21 PM »
^ if your DPAs terminate to microdots, which I assume is the case since you use the MMA6000, then yes.

However, only the newer 40xx discrete capsules can be connected to the newer MMA-GR/GS cables that terminate to microdots can be run with the MMA d:vice "puck". The older 402x line will not pair with the d:vice, however.

Wow.... I had no idea that was the case. That is unbelievably awesome.

Cables are US$430 a pop.  And then capsules at $1300 a pop.  Not cheap but I'm sure it'd work nicely.

Ain't it?

Yeah, it's a bit of an expensive cost barrier to entry, which is probably why we haven't seen anyone taking the plunge yet. I've priced it out multiple times only to conclude by saying to myself, "hmpf! maybe another day". 

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #64 on: April 26, 2018, 04:23:04 PM »
I like this rig a lot for metal detector stealth.
IMG_7490 2 by Steve Brothers, on Flickr
pardon my ignorance but when you say metal detector stealth are you saying that the metal detectors don't pick this up or just that the equipment looks innocuous enough that you don't get hassled?
Metal detectors have not been picking up the Baby NBox or mics. Deck goes in the pass through bin.

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #65 on: April 26, 2018, 07:17:52 PM »
I like this rig a lot for metal detector stealth.
IMG_7490 2 by Steve Brothers, on Flickr

I use the Tascam DR-2D but yes, that's easy to get through metal detectors.  I still use the NBox Platinum except for the hardest venues.

I was dinged twice at the Spokane Arena.  Def Leppard first and Scorpions next.  My kids ( young adults these days ) weren't amused, but they knew what happened.

I think it was daspyknows who gave me an idea but I never needed to use it.  I might borrow a similar rig for Def Leppard and Journey at the Gorge.   
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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #66 on: April 28, 2018, 10:28:42 AM »
Probably a stupid question as I have been primarily a stealth taper that is vertically challenged. With that being said, I have always put mics in a cap.  How are others setting up their pics?
Please PM. Sorry for hijacking the thread a bit.

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #67 on: April 28, 2018, 05:25:51 PM »
Probably a stupid question as I have been primarily a stealth taper that is vertically challenged. With that being said, I have always put mics in a cap.  How are others setting up their pics?
Please PM. Sorry for hijacking the thread a bit.

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #68 on: April 29, 2018, 02:08:47 PM »
Sonic Studios DSM-6P and Sony D6 > Edirol R-09 > Tascam DR-2D have served me for 25 *years* now.


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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #69 on: May 01, 2018, 11:37:27 AM »
I like this rig a lot for metal detector stealth.
IMG_7490 2 by Steve Brothers, on Flickr
pardon my ignorance but when you say metal detector stealth are you saying that the metal detectors don't pick this up or just that the equipment looks innocuous enough that you don't get hassled?
Metal detectors have not been picking up the Baby NBox or mics. Deck goes in the pass through bin.

My dream setup. When my wallet catches up with my tastes, I'll be in business  :cheers:

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #70 on: May 01, 2018, 02:15:35 PM »
Probably a stupid question as I have been primarily a stealth taper that is vertically challenged. With that being said, I have always put mics in a cap.  How are others setting up their pics?
Please PM. Sorry for hijacking the thread a bit.


mounted on worn glasses?

in a vest on ones shoulders? (the taller, the better)
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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #71 on: May 05, 2018, 12:28:18 PM »
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/in-ear-headphones-3d-audio-ambeo-smart-headset


Anyone try these? This should be the smallest rig.

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #72 on: May 05, 2018, 12:35:33 PM »
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/in-ear-headphones-3d-audio-ambeo-smart-headset


Anyone try these? This should be the smallest rig.

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #73 on: May 05, 2018, 12:41:22 PM »
Too bad I have thought the max app was higher than that.

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Re: The Perfect Stealth Rig ??
« Reply #74 on: May 05, 2018, 02:14:54 PM »
I'd be interested in how these do.

https://www.luhd-mics.com/store/p16/PM-01Binaural.html

not much better at 115spl but at only $100 (well euros) it's almost cheap enough to get them on a whim.  maybe with some kind of attenuator cable?
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