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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #195 on: May 11, 2005, 11:42:17 AM »

Did you have to crotch it for the entire show?  I wondering about heat.

i had it running it george's mountainsmith pack on monday and it got hot, but not HOT

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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #196 on: May 11, 2005, 11:43:08 AM »
matt
for all who said it was too big, i crotched the 722 the last 2 nights...hehe

Quoted so this wouldn't get lost.

Did you have to crotch it for the entire show? I wondering about heat.


DANGER! See my other thread about heat issues (first stealthing thread or something like that). The 722 needs breathing room. Keeping that near the fellas might make it tougher to become a father later on. Now, if he was recording to CF only, I take that back.

you keep saying CF would be cooler, but remember the ad1k got ridiculously hot and there was no hard drive in there...

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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #197 on: May 11, 2005, 11:48:27 AM »
SD has excellent customer service and prompt repairs, but so does Saturn....

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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #198 on: May 11, 2005, 12:18:14 PM »
you keep saying CF would be cooler, but remember the ad1k got ridiculously hot and there was no hard drive in there...

The only heat I feel originates from directly over the drive. From your pics when you opened it up, it looks like there's nothing else in that area that would generate heat. I have tested a 512 MB CF, but it's not enough time for the unit to really get hot even if it were something else. I need a bigger CF to confirm. I suppose I could record mp3 to CF just to test, but that introduces another variable.

Does anyone in the DC area have a 4 GB CF card that I can borrow for a few days?
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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #199 on: May 12, 2005, 10:38:36 AM »
I'll say this in fairness....from what I've heard so far, the a/d is topnotch in the 722, much nicer than any *deck* I've ever heard. No need to run an outboard. Haven't heard any mics>722 yet.
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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #200 on: May 12, 2005, 10:41:20 AM »
I'll say this in fairness....from what I've heard so far, the a/d is topnotch in the 722, much nicer than any *deck* I've ever heard. No need to run an outboard. Haven't heard any mics>722 yet.

I have a Bridge show on the archive that is 4021>722. It's all I run now.
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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #201 on: May 12, 2005, 10:54:20 AM »
send me your mailing addy marc, I wiill drop a couple of crowes mg200s->722 in the mail to you...

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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #202 on: May 12, 2005, 10:58:34 AM »
I'll say this in fairness....from what I've heard so far, the a/d is topnotch in the 722, much nicer than any *deck* I've ever heard. No need to run an outboard. Haven't heard any mics>722 yet.

I have a Bridge show on the archive that is 4021>722. It's all I run now.

Matt, what setup would you compare 4022>722 to, if you can do it?
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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #203 on: May 12, 2005, 12:50:04 PM »
I could just fluff away and say, "Like nothing else," but I'll try.

The following are all "to my ears":

It's more musical than 402x > ULN-2 (what I used to run)
It's warmer than 402x > V3
It's more detailed than 402x > MMe
It's warmer (but perhaps looser?) in the low end than 402x > V2 > AD2K+

I'd like to put it up against Chris's 4011 > Trak2 and do that comparison. I also wouldn't mind comparing it to Wayne's Diva IV.

The problem with all of these comparisons is that few people run any of the above rigs at 24-bit (save the ULN-2). As we've seen with the AD2K+, there can be a significant difference based on how the dithering back to 16-bit occurs. Since I've been recording 24-bit for nearly three years, I'm pretty confident as to how this sounds vs. the ULN-2. The combo is more forgiving than with the ULN-2, and sounds better on my playback system. I could see how it might be too warm for people who listen on a tube system.

For me, it is the be-all and end-all that I hoped for. I don't think we'll see something that sounds this good, is this well supported, and is this size at this price point for some time. I'm comfortable saying that this will be my rig for years to come.

If I had any quibbles about it, it would be that it's not QUITE the stealther's dream. There will be situations where I can't get the 722 into a venue. The upcoming Sonosax might be, but I'm betting it costs significantly more.
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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #204 on: May 12, 2005, 01:06:33 PM »
If I had any quibbles about it, it would be that it's not QUITE the stealther's dream. There will be situations where I can't get the 722 into a venue.


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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #205 on: May 12, 2005, 01:45:11 PM »
Hey, some of us have less available crotch room than others! :P
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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #206 on: May 12, 2005, 01:49:28 PM »
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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #208 on: May 12, 2005, 02:54:50 PM »
I could just fluff away and say, "Like nothing else," but I'll try.

The following are all "to my ears":

It's more musical than 402x > ULN-2 (what I used to run)
It's warmer than 402x > V3
It's more detailed than 402x > MMe
It's warmer (but perhaps looser?) in the low end than 402x > V2 > AD2K+

I'd like to put it up against Chris's 4011 > Trak2 and do that comparison. I also wouldn't mind comparing it to Wayne's Diva IV.

The problem with all of these comparisons is that few people run any of the above rigs at 24-bit (save the ULN-2). As we've seen with the AD2K+, there can be a significant difference based on how the dithering back to 16-bit occurs. Since I've been recording 24-bit for nearly three years, I'm pretty confident as to how this sounds vs. the ULN-2. The combo is more forgiving than with the ULN-2, and sounds better on my playback system. I could see how it might be too warm for people who listen on a tube system.

For me, it is the be-all and end-all that I hoped for. I don't think we'll see something that sounds this good, is this well supported, and is this size at this price point for some time. I'm comfortable saying that this will be my rig for years to come.

If I had any quibbles about it, it would be that it's not QUITE the stealther's dream. There will be situations where I can't get the 722 into a venue. The upcoming Sonosax might be, but I'm betting it costs significantly more.

thanks Matt, that's kinda what I hear, even at 16 bit.
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Re: 744/722 "Media too slow" Message
« Reply #209 on: May 12, 2005, 02:59:41 PM »
I had no choice but to cross link this post:

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