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Best preamp for 460's?
« on: July 14, 2003, 09:25:14 AM »
Looking for opinions. I run a UA-5 now, but am thinking about adding a pre in front of it and just using it as an A>D. Maybe an MP-2? a V-2? A Sax? Like I said this is witha pair of 460's. What do you all think?
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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2003, 09:26:07 AM »
Oh yeah, and a m148/248 are not options right now. ;)
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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2003, 10:04:18 AM »
oh you took away my answer.
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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2003, 10:39:47 AM »
Hmmm...so that's it?
148/248 or nada?
I don't buy it. :(
I really just wish I could just get the P-mod for my UA-5!
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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2003, 10:48:50 AM »
that sounds like a good option, or ps-2 with a mod sbm-1. Excellent results!!!
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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2003, 01:54:17 PM »
How about a v3?

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2003, 01:56:54 PM »
that sounds like a good option, or ps-2 with a mod sbm-1. Excellent results!!!

i just upgraded to 391s > ps2 > mod sbm1, glad to hear something like that!

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2003, 02:07:47 PM »
i just upgraded to 391s > ps2 > mod sbm1, glad to hear something like that!

I ran 391s>B18's>Mod SBM1 with great results.  I did add a pair of transformers to give me a bit more gain to work with, but the results were solid.

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2003, 02:16:15 PM »
im actually running the following ;D

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2003, 02:21:07 PM »
Yeah a V3 would be ideal, but it's out for the same reasons as the Oade preamps. $$$$

How do you think a V2 would sound? Same unit essentially, isn't it?
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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2003, 02:31:31 PM »
Exactly the same..  definately go with the v2 unless you want the v3 a/d.
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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2003, 03:08:42 PM »
personally i've never been fond of the 480/460 > v2 sound.  fwiw i ran 480 > mp-2 for awhile and loved the combo.  with all the used mp-2s for sale these days you can score a pretty darn good deal on them too.

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2003, 03:09:56 PM »
see my post in the yard sale section for a dirt cheap mp2!!!

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2003, 03:20:49 PM »
The EAA PSP-2 sounds good w/  480's. I don't see why it would'nt sound good w/ 460's.

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2003, 03:28:54 PM »
personally i've never been fond of the 480/460 > v2 sound.  fwiw i ran 480 > mp-2 for awhile and loved the combo.  with all the used mp-2s for sale these days you can score a pretty darn good deal on them too.

Thats actually what sparked the post. We're seeing a butt-load of the MP-2's now, but with them discontinuing it, it may not be long before they are hard (and pricey) to find. I love the 393>MP2 tapes I've heard.  
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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2003, 03:31:23 PM »
i was always very happy w/ the 480 > mp-2 combo.  i just hope the mp-2 works well w/ the 140s.   ;D

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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2003, 03:41:26 PM »
Thats actually what sparked the post. We're seeing a butt-load of the MP-2's now, but with them discontinuing it, it may not be long before they are hard (and pricey) to find. I love the 393>MP2 tapes I've heard.  

I don't think the MP2 will hold it's value a la the modSBM-1.  There simply isn't any competition to the modSBM-1, hence it holds it's value well.  But the SD MixPre is basically the same as the MP2 with a slightly different feature set, the most notable of which is no M/S.  Not many people doing M/S with the MP2, I've found.  Just my rambling thoughts...can't concentrate at work when I'm leaving for vacation in ~36 hours...
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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2003, 04:09:58 PM »
I don't think the MP2 will hold it's value a la the modSBM-1.

Let's hope not.

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2003, 04:54:05 PM »
The EAA PSP-2 sounds good w/  480's. I don't see why it would'nt sound good w/ 460's.

Second that, since it's what I run now :)
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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2003, 12:51:55 PM »
Whats a god price for a used EAA PSP-2?
And are they ever around?
The MP2 is looking promising simply because of supply.
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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2003, 01:39:25 PM »
I paid 625 shipped for mine about 2 weeks ago.  Good luck finding one, though.
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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2003, 02:19:10 PM »
I think 600-650 is about right. IMHO, I think you would be way more happier with the PSP-2. Post some "ISO's" over on the Oade board and just wait it out. You could get lucky............ good luck!

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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2003, 03:25:38 PM »
If bychance you're hitting Atlanta Phish I can let you borrow mine to play with, since I won't be using it.
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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2003, 05:47:20 PM »
Damn.  My friends tried & tried to get me to do the southern run, now a chance to run different gear is involved? I'm such a tool.
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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2003, 08:08:43 PM »
Damn.  My friends tried & tried to get me to do the southern run, now a chance to run different gear is involved? I'm such a tool.
Thanks for the offer, echo but I'm only able to do Star Lake>It this time around! :(

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2003, 11:34:20 PM »
460's>UA5>laptop :)
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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2003, 11:37:31 PM »
did you get the ua-5 from oade?  if so you might want to consider getting the wmod which would sound pretty nice w/ the 460s.

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2003, 11:40:42 PM »
Nah, unfortunately It came used. Not sure if it originated with the Oades. Thats what I'd ideally like too.
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« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2003, 11:51:26 PM »
maybe you should give jim a call and ask if they have record of selling the ua-5 you are using.  can't hurt to ask.

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2003, 09:07:48 AM »
Speaking of the e.a.a....what's it sound like?  Transformer based?  I wish there was a little more competetion in the pre markets for tapers...our options seem to be either, as you get up there at least, mme, v3, v2, eaa, mp2 and that is about it as far as pre's go.  I guess the oade mod's would be nice, but quite frankly I wasn't impressed at all with the stock pre's.  Another random musing about pre's...I wonder how hard it is to change the pre chip in the mini-me to another one ala grace.  It would be nice to just pay 400-500 bucks for a new pre chip instead of my ultimate plan of buying a v2 or 3 to run in front.  I have got to get a little of the film off the mme and I will be inn business...it sounds fantastic, just I need a little something else to finally satisfy my quest for the best tape possible.  

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2003, 03:07:04 PM »
You might want to consider having Jim Williams replace the electronics in your 460 bodies.  IMO the FET, opamp, and cap change is at least as important as preamp choice, possibly more.

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« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2003, 07:48:55 PM »
Speaking of the e.a.a....what's it sound like?  Transformer based?  I wish there was a little more competetion in the pre markets for tapers...our options seem to be either, as you get up there at least, mme, v3, v2, eaa, mp2 and that is about it as far as pre's go.  I guess the oade mod's would be nice, but quite frankly I wasn't impressed at all with the stock pre's.  Another random musing about pre's...I wonder how hard it is to change the pre chip in the mini-me to another one ala grace.  It would be nice to just pay 400-500 bucks for a new pre chip instead of my ultimate plan of buying a v2 or 3 to run in front.  I have got to get a little of the film off the mme and I will be inn business...it sounds fantastic, just I need a little something else to finally satisfy my quest for the best tape possible.  

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« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2003, 08:08:02 PM »
No, I sure haven't...where do I find a copy?

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« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2003, 04:39:36 AM »
No, I sure haven't...where do I find a copy?

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Re:Best preamp for 460's?
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2003, 09:04:18 AM »
480s + psp2 sound really nice.  Transformer warmth very similar to that of the m148.  I loved both behind the 480s I used to own.

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« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2003, 04:21:16 PM »
The Jim Williams mod is next on my list of stuff to go into debt for. :)
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« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2003, 04:00:53 PM »
Wise decision  ;)


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« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2003, 11:17:23 PM »
Humm I can pick up a mp-2 pretty cheep right now if it's not sold. I'm running 480>warm UA-5 now.

Do you think the mp-2 would give that much difference running it in front of the UA-5?

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« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2003, 01:04:56 AM »
Humm I can pick up a mp-2 pretty cheep right now if it's not sold. I'm running 480>warm UA-5 now.

Do you think the mp-2 would give that much difference running it in front of the UA-5?
Stick with the UA-5- I think the MP-2>UA-5 tapes would be too dark sounding, but that's just me.

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« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2003, 03:18:26 PM »
Hey there.... I've been running: 463's (Jim Williams mod.) > DMIC-20 for about 5-6 months now and have been loving the results. The mics sounded real nice before but there's so much more there after the mod -- it's really an amazing difference. I'd say it's a more important choice than which pre. The mics glow and the DMIC just add's to it. I've got samples if you're interested.
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