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seeking sony M1 levels / meter advice
« on: November 26, 2005, 02:23:10 PM »
I've taped a few shows now on my M1 and I'm looking for a few pointers (I've dug through the search results a bit already).  I've been metering so that the during average music the levels are always above -12, but usually at -6 to -4.  There is rarely if ever clipping.  Am I in the sweet spot, or should I push it a bit and run hotter?

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Re: seeking sony M1 levels / meter advice
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2005, 05:28:16 PM »
I've taped a few shows now on my M1 and I'm looking for a few pointers (I've dug through the search results a bit already).  I've been metering so that the during average music the levels are always above -12, but usually at -6 to -4.  There is rarely if ever clipping.  Am I in the sweet spot, or should I push it a bit and run hotter?

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-12 is a good place to shoot for.  You can always add gain afterwards, but it's near impossible to fix clipping.

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Re: seeking sony M1 levels / meter advice
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2005, 06:41:00 PM »
for analog patching, I always run my levels low bc I can add gain later.
best solution, is to run digital y0!
Seriously, the band makes the music. Tapers just point mics in the right direction and hit "record".

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Re: seeking sony M1 levels / meter advice
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2005, 10:11:26 PM »
for analog patching, I always run my levels low bc I can add gain later.
best solution, is to run digital y0!

True enough.  I guess there is a balance between safe levels and recording depth.  +Ts

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Re: seeking sony M1 levels / meter advice
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2005, 12:54:33 AM »
Less than 6 dB of margin (-6 dB to 0dBFS) over a full show is nice. If you're there leave it at that.

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Re: seeking sony M1 levels / meter advice
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2005, 03:55:37 PM »
don't be a wuss. push it a little. you're def. losing some bit depth if you wind up at mostly -12 with peaks up to -6. shoot for -3 or -2. you may be able to add volume later, but not resolution.

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Re: seeking sony M1 levels / meter advice
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2005, 04:00:07 PM »
Exactely. Normally, you can even go over 0 if it's just for short peaks.

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don't be a wuss. push it a little. you're def. losing some bit depth if you wind up at mostly -12 with peaks up to -6. shoot for -3 or -2. you may be able to add volume later, but not resolution.

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Re: seeking sony M1 levels / meter advice
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2005, 04:17:26 PM »
don't be a wuss. push it a little. you're def. losing some bit depth if you wind up at mostly -12 with peaks up to -6. shoot for -3 or -2. you may be able to add volume later, but not resolution.

Sorry, guess I wasn't clear...  Average is between -12 and -6 with peaks hitting -1.  Guess I'll push it a bit more in the future though.  +T

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Re: seeking sony M1 levels / meter advice
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2005, 04:21:37 PM »
Sorry, guess I wasn't clear...  Average is between -12 and -6 with peaks hitting -1.  Guess I'll push it a bit more in the future though.  +T

FWIW, that sounds just right to me.
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Re: seeking sony M1 levels / meter advice
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2005, 04:56:43 PM »
don't be a wuss. push it a little. you're def. losing some bit depth if you wind up at mostly -12 with peaks up to -6. shoot for -3 or -2. you may be able to add volume later, but not resolution.

Sorry, guess I wasn't clear...  Average is between -12 and -6 with peaks hitting -1.  Guess I'll push it a bit more in the future though.  +T

oh yeah, that's fine. nothing you can do to avoid the low stuff when it's quiet.

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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2005, 05:28:45 PM »
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Re: seeking sony M1 levels / meter advice
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2005, 09:33:14 PM »
I used to run the m1 in the +3-5 range y0!
Seriously, the band makes the music. Tapers just point mics in the right direction and hit "record".

That's good to hear!  The last patcher I had complained about my AKGs, fluffed schoeps for about 15 minutes, stayed patched in, and farted on me all night long.
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Um, in my room, one seam is a little off and I stare at it constantly. It's, like, destroying me.

 

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