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vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« on: January 10, 2006, 11:15:16 PM »
note: I edited the title so people could get to Teddy's UL of the vms02ib operator's manual.

I asked the previous owner, Jon Wolff,  as I am about to give this thing a fly at an all night gig this weekend in Shinjuku.  He answered the question about which set of BNCs I come out of into the SBM (the left ones,marked I and II).  He was confused about the next question....

The toggle on the back above the phones jack.  To the right (I/II) or to the left (MS: L/R)?  What the heck is it for?  For decoding a MS recorded on the L + R channels?  One set of BNCs (left set) are marked in and out, I am supposed to use these to connect to the the A/D.  But at what point do they become inputs rather than outputs?

« Last Edit: January 14, 2006, 12:30:21 AM by shaggy »

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Re: vms02ib: where does the toggle on the back have to be?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2006, 07:49:15 AM »
I would equate I and II to L and R in a standard setup, and as indicated on the box - I = M and II = S in a mid/side configuration. 

So if you're not running figure 8, the switch should be to the left.

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Re: vms02ib: where does the toggle on the back have to be?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2006, 05:15:01 PM »
what he said...

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Re: vms02ib: where does the toggle on the back have to be?
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2006, 05:20:08 PM »
actually the switch is for the headphone monitoring, assuming that you are doing the mid-side on the fly.

i've never used the BNC connectors for input, i think it is misleading.

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Re: vms02ib: where does the toggle on the back have to be?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2006, 01:01:53 PM »
heres the manual from Mr.Vollmer.

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Re: vms02ib: where does the toggle on the back have to be?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2006, 06:11:30 PM »
Teddy, thanks alot....

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Re: vms02ib: where does the toggle on the back have to be?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2006, 06:27:25 PM »
thanks teddy +T

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Re: vms02ib: where does the toggle on the back have to be?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2006, 08:15:10 PM »
no problem.

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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2007, 03:41:59 AM »
How about this.... converted to a PDF

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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2007, 02:22:48 AM »
How about this.... converted to a PDF

What happened to PAGE 6  :hmmm:

This is the gain settings page and is missing in both images and .pdf versions  :whipped:
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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2007, 10:47:05 PM »
I searched my office and all I could find is the 20+ manual that is all in german... I can scan it in, if someone will translate it :(

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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2007, 12:38:00 AM »
I searched my office and all I could find is the 20+ manual that is all in german... I can scan it in, if someone will translate it :(

While I can't read German, if there's illustrations and more complete specifications page not found in the English version, maybe we can glean useful information regardless. 

Please give it a scan and hope some of our German speaking members can help with at least the gain settings options covered somewhere in the 20 page German language version that is supposed to be on the missing page 6 of the English version.
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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2007, 10:34:20 AM »
They work as an input when you want to do post-decoding using the VMS.  So you'd connect the source output to I/II, and the destination to L/R.  But these days, most people decode digitally in post.



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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2007, 01:50:09 PM »
See attached, German manual... let me know what you find out in here, as I am curious :)

file is too big to attach (not sure why), but here is a link: http://tikcuf.us/schoeps_vms02ib_german.pdf

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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2007, 10:03:28 PM »
See attached, German manual... let me know what you find out in here, as I am curious :)

file is too big to attach (not sure why), but here is a link: http://tikcuf.us/schoeps_vms02ib_german.pdf


pdf downloads, but Adobe reader reports damage and will not open it.   :really_sucks:

Several download tries and still no luck.   ???

Anyone able to open this?   :help:
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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2007, 04:41:15 PM »
OK, try this again, new file, new PDF, new upload: http://tikcuf.us/schoeps_vms02ib_german2.pdf

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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2007, 08:39:25 AM »
OK, try this again, new file, new PDF, new upload: http://tikcuf.us/schoeps_vms02ib_german2.pdf

Bingo  ;D  Thank you for this scan.  Everything is finally clear about this preamp's functioning and operation :cheers:
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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2007, 03:15:13 PM »
Bingo  ;D  Thank you for this scan.  Everything is finally clear about this preamp's functioning and operation :cheers:

Does that mean that we will be getting some more detailed ideas/thoughts soon? :-)

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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2007, 07:49:45 PM »
Guys, sorry I didn't see this thread before. I translated that manual for them, and could have helped you out if I had only known. Are there still any questions outstanding?

In the future, please let me know if you run into any problems with Schoeps technical or sales publications; I generally work on the English versions of pretty much all their stuff. In fact I'm currently struggling to get the new edition of their main catalog out the door ...

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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2007, 12:07:04 AM »
In the future, please let me know if you run into any problems with Schoeps technical or sales publications; I generally work on the English versions of pretty much all their stuff. In fact I'm currently struggling to get the new edition of their main catalog out the door ...

If you have a high quality english PDF version, I would love to get a copy... no rush, just the one i have is a bad scan.

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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2007, 01:28:23 PM »
It might be a good idea to get every manual you have and post them in the archive? That would be very beneficial.

I am sure we could find a place to host them, etc. Thanks for offering!
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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2007, 05:28:13 PM »
I am sure we could find a place to host them, etc. Thanks for offering!

I will gladly host manuals if needed, I have space on either of my hosting server for small things like documents.

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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2007, 08:40:02 PM »
We usually put them in the TS Reference section of the site (http://www.taperssection.com/reference/) and then link to them in the TSKB | Archive | User Manuals forum...assuming it's okay to host them publicly, of course.
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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2007, 09:45:30 PM »
Guess I forgot about that spot... I dont see why any of the Schoeps or VMS manuals cant be put there, as they are freely available from Schoeps, but I believe the VMS02 line is out of production and thus out of print.


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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2007, 12:01:15 AM »
It isn't necessarily doing people a favor if you archive materials which are also available directly from the source. Corrections or updates may occur more often than you might realize, and you can easily be left distributing an out-of-date version that has wrong information in it.

It would be far better to give a list of links to the various manufacturers' sites and where they store their latest versions of the information. Just a suggestion.

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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2007, 12:49:25 AM »
True, but if you check the link from Brian, you will see that many of the manuals included were never published in digital (IE PDF) version, and these have been scanned and/or provided from the users of said equipment.

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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2007, 01:32:23 AM »
It isn't necessarily doing people a favor if you archive materials which are also available directly from the source. Corrections or updates may occur more often than you might realize, and you can easily be left distributing an out-of-date version that has wrong information in it.

It would be far better to give a list of links to the various manufacturers' sites and where they store their latest versions of the information. Just a suggestion.

A good suggestion, and one about which we've thought before..  The User Manuals section originally started out as a place to archive manuals that were no longer available from the source.  It just kinda grew from there, and we've tossed up some others in case they disappear from the source (and some have disappeared over time).  Since the Mods aren't necessarily interested in expending the effort to maintain links to the direct source as they change, archive the manuals offline / monitor their availability / make them available online only when they disappear at the source, etc., we just kinda leave it alone and throw up new ones if people ask.

Seems the sensible approach for anyone trying to find a manual is to go to the source first, and only check here if they're unable to locate it elsewhere.  That's what I'd do, anyway.
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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2007, 01:58:03 AM »
maybe a nice disclaimer to that effect at the beginning? Perhaps copying some of DSatz's language?

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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2007, 02:03:50 AM »
maybe a nice disclaimer to that effect at the beginning? Perhaps copying some of DSatz's language?

ATTN: Before relying on a manual contained here within the TS.com User Manuals section we recommend that you first check the manufacturers website. The manuals contained within TS.com may or may not be complete and up-to-date.

Good idea.  Done!  Thanks DSatz & Tim.  :coolguy:
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Re: vms02ib operation owner's instruction manual
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2007, 02:07:31 AM »
thank you sir :)

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