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Re: SP-CMC-8> ? >iRiver H120
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2006, 11:14:50 AM »
Thanks all!

I've decided to go ahead and buy redbook's AD-20 (w/ SP mini Mod) because I really want to give the optical in a whirl on my iRiver + I think it will be good to have when I want to tape in "open" situations with my future non-stealthing mics. 

Really appreciate the advice from ya'll.


jbsalt, may I ask, how did you like AD-20 > optical in compared to go battery box > line-in on your iriver?
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Re: SP-CMC-8> ? >iRiver H120
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2006, 12:38:03 PM »
I use this:

AT831 > 9V two wire battery box (DIY) > iRiver H120

I use the onboard preamp of H120, at loud concerts I usually go +9dB. Very easy, very stealthy.

I think my forthcoming config will be...

(no extra gain config) AT853 miniXLR modded > 3-wire bbox > I-River IHP120
(variable gain config) AT853 mixiXLR modded > 3-wire bbox > Reactive Sounds Booxt box > I-River IHP120
(AD20 config) AT853 mixiXLR modded > 3-wire bbox > 2x XLR adaptor > AD-20 > I-River IHP120
Actual Gear:

stealth  - AT943 (c,o,sc,h) > ST-9100 > Edirol R09HR/I-River IHP-116(CFMod)
Ultrastealth  - DPA 4061 > ST-9100 > Edirol R09HR/I-River IHP-116(CFMod)
Open - BSC1-K1/K2/K3/K4 > Segue Dogstars > Marantz PMD671 busman t-mod

Playback: PC > M-Audio Fast Track Pro > KRK RP6 actives

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Re: SP-CMC-8> ? >iRiver H120
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2006, 02:53:52 PM »
Dude, try not to use the RS preamp together with the 3 wire box.
The preamp doesn't do well, when the mics are powered by another source.

Look at this link:
http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?s=215695c26e030a68c257e8a9074fb7a3&showtopic=12847

consider powering ur 853s with the preamp alone, w/o the 3 wire box.

I use this:

AT831 > 9V two wire battery box (DIY) > iRiver H120

I use the onboard preamp of H120, at loud concerts I usually go +9dB. Very easy, very stealthy.

I think my forthcoming config will be...

(no extra gain config) AT853 miniXLR modded > 3-wire bbox > I-River IHP120
(variable gain config) AT853 mixiXLR modded > 3-wire bbox > Reactive Sounds Booxt box > I-River IHP120
(AD20 config) AT853 mixiXLR modded > 3-wire bbox > 2x XLR adaptor > AD-20 > I-River IHP120
Audio-Technica ES943/C's -> Home-made 3-wire battery box -> Tascam DR-07

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Re: SP-CMC-8> ? >iRiver H120
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2006, 03:12:53 PM »
Dude, try not to use the RS preamp together with the 3 wire box.
The preamp doesn't do well, when the mics are powered by another source.

Look at this link:
http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?s=215695c26e030a68c257e8a9074fb7a3&showtopic=12847

consider powering ur 853s with the preamp alone, w/o the 3 wire box.

I use this:

AT831 > 9V two wire battery box (DIY) > iRiver H120

I use the onboard preamp of H120, at loud concerts I usually go +9dB. Very easy, very stealthy.

I think my forthcoming config will be...

(no extra gain config) AT853 miniXLR modded > 3-wire bbox > I-River IHP120
(variable gain config) AT853 mixiXLR modded > 3-wire bbox > Reactive Sounds Booxt box > I-River IHP120
(AD20 config) AT853 mixiXLR modded > 3-wire bbox > 2x XLR adaptor > AD-20 > I-River IHP120

Thanks dude!

I'm still waiting for the RSBB preamp to arrive and I was wondering if it provides 9v powering to the mic... so thanks for the advice.

+T for you!

Anyway, I'm just realising that I've a very good collection of preamps right now... AD-20, UA-5 (not modded yet) and RSBB... Am I turning a little gear slut???
Actual Gear:

stealth  - AT943 (c,o,sc,h) > ST-9100 > Edirol R09HR/I-River IHP-116(CFMod)
Ultrastealth  - DPA 4061 > ST-9100 > Edirol R09HR/I-River IHP-116(CFMod)
Open - BSC1-K1/K2/K3/K4 > Segue Dogstars > Marantz PMD671 busman t-mod

Playback: PC > M-Audio Fast Track Pro > KRK RP6 actives

My shows on the archive: http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/tapemaniac
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Re: SP-CMC-8> ? >iRiver H120
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2006, 03:52:58 PM »
Don't worry, the RS preamp provide 9V powering to the mics.
Audio-Technica ES943/C's -> Home-made 3-wire battery box -> Tascam DR-07

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Re: SP-CMC-8> ? >iRiver H120
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2006, 08:54:47 PM »
WOW, really good set ups, a lot of gear.
My iriver is due to arrive today or tomorrow, I don't own any battery box nor the AD-20 yet.
I am planning to do a lot of 'ambience' recording, sound which I use for my videos, and a low self-noise is essential for me. TYherefore I wonder if a battery box would suffice, or the AD-20 is necessary, but I'd really like avoiding having ( buy and ) to carry the AD-20.

any opinion?

thank's
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These impressions create tendencies, their sum total is your character.
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Re: SP-CMC-8> ? >iRiver H120
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2006, 10:00:14 AM »
WOW, really good set ups, a lot of gear.
My iriver is due to arrive today or tomorrow, I don't own any battery box nor the AD-20 yet.
I am planning to do a lot of 'ambience' recording, sound which I use for my videos, and a low self-noise is essential for me. TYherefore I wonder if a battery box would suffice, or the AD-20 is necessary, but I'd really like avoiding having ( buy and ) to carry the AD-20.

any opinion?

thank's


Guess the battery box and some gain (6 to 10 db) from the iriver should be enough, it seems that is not that noisy...,and of course depending on the kind of music you record you could use less or more gain.
Actual Gear:

stealth  - AT943 (c,o,sc,h) > ST-9100 > Edirol R09HR/I-River IHP-116(CFMod)
Ultrastealth  - DPA 4061 > ST-9100 > Edirol R09HR/I-River IHP-116(CFMod)
Open - BSC1-K1/K2/K3/K4 > Segue Dogstars > Marantz PMD671 busman t-mod

Playback: PC > M-Audio Fast Track Pro > KRK RP6 actives

My shows on the archive: http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/tapemaniac
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Re: SP-CMC-8> ? >iRiver H120
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2006, 05:01:31 PM »
Still waiting on that AD-20 to arrive....  Will let ya'll know how it sounds.  Whether it be the SP mod ad-20 or a reg ad-20 w/ powered xlr.

Thanks all!

I've decided to go ahead and buy redbook's AD-20 (w/ SP mini Mod) because I really want to give the optical in a whirl on my iRiver + I think it will be good to have when I want to tape in "open" situations with my future non-stealthing mics. 

Really appreciate the advice from ya'll.


jbsalt, may I ask, how did you like AD-20 > optical in compared to go battery box > line-in on your iriver?
CMC-8> AD-20> iRiver H120

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Re: SP-CMC-8> ? >iRiver H120
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2006, 10:11:12 PM »
thank's lordbelial and jbsalt - hope that you are gonna like your AD-20 and yes, please, let me know if it improoves the quality of your recordings noticeably.
My H120 arrived  :D, I will not use XLR mics, just got an SP battery box and CMC4s from the yard sale.
I want to find out if BB>CMC4>H120 will be good enough to record birds singing, seawaves asf. at otherwise quiet surrounds or if the AD-20 is needed.
Everything you do through out the day, every thought and every feeling leaves an impression stored inside you.
These impressions create tendencies, their sum total is your character.
gear: SP-CMC8+AT853 cards+omnis, AT822>DIY preamp>iRiverH120rockboxed

 

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