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Offline skokiebob

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hypercards vs cards
« on: August 07, 2006, 07:17:28 AM »
Hello all. I know my answer is in these forums somewhere, but I can't seem to enter the right query to pull it up. My question is, and I know there is no DEFINITIVE answer, how far back from the stage do you get a better recording with the hyper caps. Some details for the particular show would be:
Balcony of Chicago Auditorium- maybe 100-150 ft from stage?
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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2006, 10:28:05 AM »
I'm not sure, but keep in mind that the Chicago Auditorium is one incredible sounding room.  I would use cards in that situation, as the auditorium is one of the best sounding places in the entire country.  That said, I would ordinarily go with hypers in that situation with a poorer sounding place.
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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2006, 10:53:58 AM »
Quote from: jlykos on August 07, 2006, 10:28:05 AM
I'm not sure, but keep in mind that the Chicago Auditorium is one incredible sounding room.  I would use cards in that situation, as the auditorium is one of the best sounding places in the entire country.  That said, I would ordinarily go with hypers in that situation with a poorer sounding place.

I disagree with this.  The "section" at the auditorium theatre is very boomy and I think that is a perfect spot for hypers.  Best bet is to search the archive for sources from the venue and have a listen to deceide for yourself.  I have not tpaed there, but have heard a few tapes from there and was dissapointed with the sound on tape.  Sweetspot may be ideal for cards, but further back I think you would appreciate the omni's hypers.  The volume of the show, and the abilities of the engineer to tune the room will go a long way as to how that room will sound.  The Auditorium theatre is a very old room that was acoustically designed to amplify acoustic performances without PA.  The room is very "live" sounding.  They have done some work since they remodled 5 or 6 years ago, but it is still a very live room.

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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2006, 05:41:38 PM »
Quote from: mmmatt on August 07, 2006, 10:53:58 AM


 Sweetspot may be ideal for cards, but further back I think you would appreciate the omni's. 

Matt
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Matth: Omnis or hypers at 150'?  I think you mean hypers.
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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2006, 06:59:16 PM »
Quote from: slayerrocker on August 08, 2006, 05:41:38 PM
Quote from: mmmatt on August 07, 2006, 10:53:58 AM


 Sweetspot may be ideal for cards, but further back I think you would appreciate the omni's. 

Matt

Matth: Omnis or hypers at 150'?  I think you mean hypers.
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YES!!!!  Doo!

I'll also add that I have attended shows there and heard tapes from the shows I was at.  I forgot to say that too in my post.

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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2006, 07:21:10 PM »
I ran hypers from row Z at the Auditorium for Wilco and the recording sounds damn fine. I would suggest if your beyond the first rail to run hypers to cut down the boom in the room.
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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2006, 10:30:00 PM »
If in doubt, I would always run hypers.  They will always sound good.  I would only run cards when the room is great and when you can get a great position, up close.

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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2006, 11:29:13 AM »
I agree - hypers when in doubt.
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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2006, 11:45:19 AM »
Quote from: poorlyconditioned on August 08, 2006, 10:30:00 PM
If in doubt, I would always run hypers.  They will always sound good.  I would only run cards when the room is great and when you can get a great position, up close.

  Richard

what he said.
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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2006, 02:25:57 PM »
Quote from: stober on August 09, 2006, 11:45:19 AM
Quote from: poorlyconditioned on August 08, 2006, 10:30:00 PM
If in doubt, I would always run hypers.  They will always sound good.  I would only run cards when the room is great and when you can get a great position, up close.

  Richard

what he said.

definately!
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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2006, 02:29:31 PM »
Quote from: svenkid on August 09, 2006, 02:25:57 PM
Quote from: stober on August 09, 2006, 11:45:19 AM
Quote from: poorlyconditioned on August 08, 2006, 10:30:00 PM
If in doubt, I would always run hypers.  They will always sound good.  I would only run cards when the room is great and when you can get a great position, up close.

  Richard

what he said.

definately!

I agree, but I suppose it depends on your tastes.  IMO, better too little room sound than too much.  I recently taped an indoor show from the 5th row with my hypers and I'm glad I did.
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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2006, 02:30:35 PM »
Quote from: poorlyconditioned on August 08, 2006, 10:30:00 PM
If in doubt, I would always run hypers.  They will always sound good.  I would only run cards when the room is great and when you can get a great position, up close.

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These are the words of an AKG fluffer!!!!

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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2006, 06:33:02 PM »
Since I've owned my Hypers, I've run cards less than 10 times in the last 16 months!

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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2006, 08:28:46 PM »
i run my hypers in the SWEET SPOT/FOB/off DFC from the stage, everywhere

i know cards work great as festivals, but after only having hypers a couple of moedowns ago, i think they may be the best tapes ive ever had the pleasure of making, so sont l;isten to the 'general' rules, experiment and see what works best for YOU

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Re: hypercards vs cards
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2006, 08:38:48 PM »
Ive run my cards over my hypers for a while. I dont think ive used the hypers since 12/05.
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