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reading this article ("Latest DirecTV Receivers “Earn Their Stripes” But the Defect Doesn’t Win Any Awards") got me thinking. even though the lcd sets (which is what i have) are not as prone to burn in, the way i understand it is that the bar sections dont get light, so i wasw thinking - are grey bars better than black because they are getting light..? i think they look worse, but if using them saves my set, i will make the switch...

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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2007, 12:53:34 PM »
On LCDs, no.  Technically the grey would use a *bit* less power, but other than that it's no difference.

On a plasma, though, the grey is better.
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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2007, 01:53:07 PM »
my samsung shows grey and black bars (read projection)
i don't know why or how but some channels its grey and others black
i like black better myself, and really like SD shows letterboxed - then you have black all the way around, looks kinda cool imo
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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2007, 01:56:23 PM »
my samsung shows grey and black bars
i don't know why or how but some channels its grey and others black
i like black better myself, and really like SD shows letterboxed - then you have black all the way around, looks kinda cool imo

On my cable service (TWC, SA-8300HD) it will put grey bars on the sides of SD content, and black bars on the equivalent HD channel.  For example if you're watching the simpsons, it will put grey bars on Channel 5 (SD) and black bars on Channel 705 (HD)... at least for me, this is a factor of what the box is sending to the TV.
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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2007, 02:19:24 PM »
with directv, you can choose the color of the bars...

do i even have to worry about burn-in with an lcd set..?
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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2007, 02:32:27 PM »
with directv, you can choose the color of the bars...

do i even have to worry about burn-in with an lcd set..?

Nope.
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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2007, 04:36:22 PM »
really..? so there is nothing i have to worry about (besides clouding and flashlighting, but those are either present or they are not - they are not, in my case - they dont develop over time) with this type of set ..? that is great news.
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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2007, 04:40:05 PM »
Just burning out the backlight. 
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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2007, 04:42:01 PM »
i am not sure what that is...

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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2007, 04:56:45 PM »
LCDs have a light behind the panel so you can actually see the picture.  Those lights have a rated life of so many hours.  After they burn out it is *very* expensive to replace them, and you pretty much have to just buy a new TV. 

You can see it in person by checking out an old laptop and putting it next to a new laptop and noticing the difference in brightness.  It can be pretty apparent if the old machine is 5+ years old.

Not something to worry about, though - just enjoy the tv. ;)
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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2007, 01:56:36 PM »
my samsung shows grey and black bars
i don't know why or how but some channels its grey and others black
i like black better myself, and really like SD shows letterboxed - then you have black all the way around, looks kinda cool imo

On my cable service (TWC, SA-8300HD) it will put grey bars on the sides of SD content, and black bars on the equivalent HD channel.  For example if you're watching the simpsons, it will put grey bars on Channel 5 (SD) and black bars on Channel 705 (HD)... at least for me, this is a factor of what the box is sending to the TV.
ahh i think thats it, i have time warner too
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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2007, 08:32:49 AM »
my samsung shows grey and black bars
i don't know why or how but some channels its grey and others black
i like black better myself, and really like SD shows letterboxed - then you have black all the way around, looks kinda cool imo

On my cable service (TWC, SA-8300HD) it will put grey bars on the sides of SD content, and black bars on the equivalent HD channel.  For example if you're watching the simpsons, it will put grey bars on Channel 5 (SD) and black bars on Channel 705 (HD)... at least for me, this is a factor of what the box is sending to the TV.

To add to this....720p content will have the black bars, while sd content will have the grey bars.
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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2007, 11:20:23 AM »
my samsung shows grey and black bars
i don't know why or how but some channels its grey and others black
i like black better myself, and really like SD shows letterboxed - then you have black all the way around, looks kinda cool imo

On my cable service (TWC, SA-8300HD) it will put grey bars on the sides of SD content, and black bars on the equivalent HD channel.  For example if you're watching the simpsons, it will put grey bars on Channel 5 (SD) and black bars on Channel 705 (HD)... at least for me, this is a factor of what the box is sending to the TV.

To add to this....720p content will have the black bars, while sd content will have the grey bars.
i have also figured out, which is along the same lines - when viewing a show on the tv it can have black bars, but if i view it via the tivo (standard, not hd) it has grey
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Re: which is better for the tv, grey or black bars for sd viewing..?
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2007, 12:05:10 PM »
That is all very much dependent on the TVs used, the station you're watching, the provider of the content, and the settings on the device (cable box/tivo/whatever).  It wont be the same for everyone.
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