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In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« on: September 04, 2007, 12:36:33 PM »
Hey Everyone

I am in need of some expertise.  I am looking for an interface with preamps.  I have been looking at several models and really am having a hard time finding what I want.

I need an interface with preamps, Phantom Power, Spidif hookup, 24/96.  Now here comes the tricky part USB or Fire Wire? Fire wire is faster but is it really necessary?   

I am going to be running 2 condenser mics phantom power from the interface with a Microtrack.  Here are some models I have been looking at.

Pre Sound FireBox - 6x10 24-bit/96K http://www.presonus.com/firebox.html

M-Audio Fire wire 410  http://www.sonicsense.com/maudio410.htm

Edirol UA-25 this edrol does not have spidif

Are there any other models out there that might fit my criteria and do the same thing for under $500

Thanks for the help
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2007, 03:48:07 PM »
Damn good one!!  I just need it to be powered by battery not from computer USB.  I forgot to mention that.

Thanks

Anyothers??
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2007, 06:20:27 PM »
A few things to keep in mind:

1) The Presonus FireBox is not truly a 96k box: http://taperssection.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=547bd5c3ce7f21d844098263ac280883&topic=88883.0

2) If you're planning on rolling at 96k, you want Firewire; USB 2.0 is not stable/reliable above 48khz. 

3) the pre-amps in most interfaces suck (at least for those in your price range)

I'd recommend the MOTU Ultralite, and then you can see about getting a pre-amp mod/upgrade for it down the road (Busman Audio is a candidate here).

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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2007, 08:07:50 PM »
Not a lot out there that's 2 channels, battery powered and has SPDIF out.
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2007, 08:51:18 PM »
http://www.core-sound.com/4Mic/1.php

No pricing yet, but most likely over $500.
Not yet in production
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2007, 08:51:27 PM »
A few things to keep in mind:

I'd recommend the MOTU Ultralite, and then you can see about getting a pre-amp mod/upgrade for it down the road (Busman Audio is a candidate here).

Thanks for the suggestion

How do the two Mic plugins work?  I mean one is on the front and one is one the back.  It would seem a little cumbersome if I were to have it bag out in the feild.  I would almost need to keep it out wheil recording otherwise I would not be able to see the screen.  Maybee thats being a little picky?

Thanks for all the help this really gives me a better idea of what is out there.
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2007, 09:10:33 PM »
http://www.core-sound.com/Mic2496/1.php

Anyone used these products?
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2007, 09:37:02 PM »
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2007, 10:51:19 PM »
Hey thanks everyone for the posts.  I appreciate all the positive help.  Now I know what not to buy.

I think that I might go with the M-Audio Firewire 410.  I will let you all know how it works.
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2007, 11:31:05 PM »
Hey Everyone

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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2007, 02:43:51 PM »
Yeah I PM'd him about the movie.   It does look violent if you have not seen it.
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2007, 04:06:50 PM »
Hey thanks everyone for the posts.  I appreciate all the positive help.  Now I know what not to buy.

I think that I might go with the M-Audio Firewire 410.  I will let you all know how it works.

I can not trace any reference on firewire 410 that it will work in stand alone mode. Check this before you purchase.

M-audio fast track pro works stand alone mode, but the spif will be 24bit/48khz in that case.

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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2007, 04:20:57 PM »
Perhaps Apogee MiniMe w firewire interface --
http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/minime.php

It's been discontinued -- but used ones (usually with or without USB card)
show up in the yard sale pretty often.  You would have to update to firewire.
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2007, 07:00:17 PM »
Perhaps Apogee MiniMe w firewire interface --
http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/minime.php

It's been discontinued -- but used ones (usually with or without USB card)
show up in the yard sale pretty often.  You would have to update to firewire.

If anyone’s got one I would defiantly be interested.
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2007, 11:19:26 PM »
Perhaps Apogee MiniMe w firewire interface --
http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/minime.php

It's been discontinued -- but used ones (usually with or without USB card)
show up in the yard sale pretty often.  You would have to update to firewire.

If anyone’s got one I would defiantly be interested.

I doubt you'll find a used Mini-Me w/firewire as they only introduced the firewire option shortly before officially discontinuing the MMe...
but here's one for sale from Cascade:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,90278.msg1205538.html#msg1205538


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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2007, 12:17:56 AM »
they also pop up on ebay fairly regularly
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2007, 01:25:23 PM »
Cool Thanks guys for the heads up! ;D
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2007, 05:02:16 PM »
What is the significance of a standalone unit?  What does that mean ???
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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2007, 05:27:43 PM »
What is the significance of a standalone unit?  What does that mean ???

"Standalone" as referenced here means the unit will work without USB power.  The original Edirol UA5 would only work if plugged into a USB connection.  When you applied the Digi-Mod to this, it disabled the USB only feature allowing it to be used without the need for USB power (or "standalone").

I can not trace any reference on firewire 410 that it will work in stand alone mode. Check this before you purchase.

M-audio fast track pro works stand alone mode, but the spif will be 24bit/48khz in that case.

You should look into a DMod UA5.  Its a great unit.  If you find an Oade Modified UA5, you can get more modifications in the future.  I used to use a Warm Mod Plus UA5 into a recorder (via Toslink).  Worked great...

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Re: In the market for an Interface with pre amp
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2007, 01:13:05 PM »
The firewire 410 is a great box and is a Pro Tools compatible interface if you use or get into using it.
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