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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #180 on: January 20, 2008, 09:04:16 AM »

The sound is incredibly better with the Church mics and pre and Marantz recorder!  Compared to the Zoom with internals, it is just a world of difference...Much clearer and cleaner sound with much more articulated low-end...

EDIT:  I will never use the Zoom again (with the internals), barring some sort of problem with the other gear...


How does the Church mics and pre and Marantz recorder compare to the Church mics and pre and Zoom H2?

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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #181 on: January 20, 2008, 02:33:59 PM »
How do the internal mics stack up?  And what's their peak SPL before distorting?

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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #182 on: January 26, 2008, 03:46:19 PM »
I used the PMD620 with a SoundPros mini-pre (SP-PREAMP-11) the past 2 nights and I'm pretty happy with the results.  I've uploaded a couple of 24-bit samples y'all can download and listen to.  Both of these were recorded from my seat, and the files are unedited except for the fades at the end.

Lori McKenna at the Allen Room in NYC.  AT943 cards (DIN, 20' from stage, 10' ROC) > SP mini-pre (+22dB gain) > PMD620 line-in @24/44.1 (input level at -16dB).

http://kbergend.tripod.com/lm2008-01-24samp.wav

Neko Case at Tarrytown Music Hall (much muddier acoustics).  AT943 cards (DIN, 25' from stage, DFC) > SP mini-pre (+22dB gain) > PMD620 line-in @24/44.1 (input level at -18dB).

http://kbergend.tripod.com/neko2008-01-25samp.wav

Makes for a nice little rig, and much better sounding to my ears than the MT1 line-in with the same mics and preamp.  A few pics of the PMD620 and mini-pre velcroed together:

http://kbergend.tripod.com/pmd620rig_front.jpg

http://kbergend.tripod.com/pmd620rig_back.jpg

http://kbergend.tripod.com/pmd620rig_top.jpg

(and unlike the giant used in the ads for Core Sound, I have pretty small hands  ;) )
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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #183 on: January 27, 2008, 06:48:49 PM »
I tried mic-in on the PMD620 the other night for Gare Du Nord at the Mezz in Breda (the Netherlands).  Not my favorite band, but my girlfriend likes it, so I thought it would be the perfect opportunity to experiment with mic-in.  Church Audio STC-11 (omni caps) > PMD620 (plug-in power, 24/48, attenuation -24 dB, levels at -10 dB).

The first set, I was in the back, near the bar, and there was a LOT of chatter and pushy people.  At one point, some drunk girl actually tapped one of my mics and said, "Wat is dit?" (What is this, in Dutch).  On the recording, you can quite clearly hear my irritated, "'Dit' is you fucking up my recording!!!"  That's not in the sample, although funny, as it is the worst part of the first set.

http://www.box.net/shared/yeqycgo0k4

The second set sound is considerably improved, as I was able to move up front, between the soundboard and stage.  Still a bit of chatter, but much, much better.

http://www.box.net/shared/0x1jcf7i84

I am pretty impressed, actually.  Not nearly as good as with the ST-9100 in the chain, but still pretty solid.  If I had to go minimal set-up, I would be more-or-less comfortable doing so.

EDIT:  +T for the photos, kbergend...That is a mighty small pre-amp.  My 9100 is a bit bigger, but still makes a compact set-up with the 620...

Also, I should point out that these samples are totally unedited.  As if you couldn't tell! :)
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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #184 on: January 31, 2008, 11:07:44 AM »
So In the manual it says it takes many different kinds of sd cards, Are there any that aren't good or will any class work?

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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #185 on: January 31, 2008, 11:37:05 AM »
So In the manual it says it takes many different kinds of sd cards, Are there any that aren't good or will any class work?

I have tried six or seven different cards.  Sizes ranging from 256MB to 4GB.  Various ages (the oldest was from a digital camera I got rid of long ago), so probably a wide range of speeds and production methods.  From "SD Card" (literally; talk about no-name!) to Sandisk Ultra II.  Every single one worked with no problems.  Of course, that's no guarantee that any given card will work, but I think it will take a lot of the ones out there.

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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #186 on: February 12, 2008, 10:56:36 AM »
I used the PMD620 with a SoundPros mini-pre (SP-PREAMP-11) the past 2 nights and I'm pretty happy with the results.  I've uploaded a couple of 24-bit samples y'all can download and listen to.  Both of these were recorded from my seat, and the files are unedited except for the fades at the end.

Lori McKenna at the Allen Room in NYC.  AT943 cards (DIN, 20' from stage, 10' ROC) > SP mini-pre (+22dB gain) > PMD620 line-in @24/44.1 (input level at -16dB).

http://kbergend.tripod.com/lm2008-01-24samp.wav

Neko Case at Tarrytown Music Hall (much muddier acoustics).  AT943 cards (DIN, 25' from stage, DFC) > SP mini-pre (+22dB gain) > PMD620 line-in @24/44.1 (input level at -18dB).

http://kbergend.tripod.com/neko2008-01-25samp.wav

Makes for a nice little rig, and much better sounding to my ears than the MT1 line-in with the same mics and preamp.  A few pics of the PMD620 and mini-pre velcroed together:

http://kbergend.tripod.com/pmd620rig_front.jpg

http://kbergend.tripod.com/pmd620rig_back.jpg

http://kbergend.tripod.com/pmd620rig_top.jpg

(and unlike the giant used in the ads for Core Sound, I have pretty small hands  ;) )

Hello,

those are nice pics, it gives a good idea of the size.

Do you consider this preamp could be ok to record quiet natural sounds?
I'm looking for a small one to insert between the Marantz and an AT-822.

Thanks for the info,

JM.

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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #187 on: February 21, 2008, 10:45:06 AM »
First recording monday night at wilco with the 620 and sounds great, looking forward to the various "situations" this can run, especially running mic in with no BB here in the near future ;)

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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #188 on: February 25, 2008, 01:41:59 PM »
Ran my AT943 cards straight into the PMD620 mic in (no attenuation) for Grace Potter last week and was very happy with the results.  :)

http://www.archive.org/details/gpn2008-02-21.aud.flac16
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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #189 on: February 25, 2008, 01:49:06 PM »
Ran my AT943 cards straight into the PMD620 mic in (no attenuation) for Grace Potter last week and was very happy with the results.  :)

http://www.archive.org/details/gpn2008-02-21.aud.flac16
Hello. Just curious. Do you remember your set up (Rec Levels)?  Just asking because even with -24 db att I have pretty high levels in my PMD 620.
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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #190 on: February 25, 2008, 09:42:13 PM »
Ran my AT943 cards straight into the PMD620 mic in (no attenuation) for Grace Potter last week and was very happy with the results.  :)

http://www.archive.org/details/gpn2008-02-21.aud.flac16
Hello. Just curious. Do you remember your set up (Rec Levels)?  Just asking because even with -24 db att I have pretty high levels in my PMD 620.

I was just keeping an eye on the LEDs and not really watching the meters, but the levels are at -22dB now and I haven't recorded anything since, so I assume that's where they were set during the concert.  It was a reasonably loud show and I wound up peaking around -1dB, although Grace & co. weren't cranked up to nearly their typical SPLs (in which case I'm sure I would've needed the pad).
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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #191 on: February 26, 2008, 09:14:50 AM »
Ran my AT943 cards straight into the PMD620 mic in (no attenuation) for Grace Potter last week and was very happy with the results.  :)

http://www.archive.org/details/gpn2008-02-21.aud.flac16
Hello. Just curious. Do you remember your set up (Rec Levels)?  Just asking because even with -24 db att I have pretty high levels in my PMD 620.

I was just keeping an eye on the LEDs and not really watching the meters, but the levels are at -22dB now and I haven't recorded anything since, so I assume that's where they were set during the concert.  It was a reasonably loud show and I wound up peaking around -1dB, although Grace & co. weren't cranked up to nearly their typical SPLs (in which case I'm sure I would've needed the pad).

Thanks. At this time I'm only taping very loud shows. I'm using the -24db att preset. Even with this preset, I have to set my Rec Levels around -12db to -15db.

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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #192 on: February 28, 2008, 01:35:19 PM »
Hallo,

I am new on this forum. I would like to buy the Marantz PMD 620. What do you think about it? Is there someone who know what's the quality of the new Olympus LS 10? Marantz vs. Olympus: who is the winner for the sound quality?

Is there a Marantz lab test? I've seen on these pages the test for the dynamic range. Very interesting! Thank you. When appaer the full review with more testing to verify frequency response and other matters?

Thanks and bye

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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #193 on: March 01, 2008, 02:02:55 AM »
a few questions about the 620...

i.  does the 620 still have a non-seamless transition between tracks while recording, or has that been addressed with firmware?

ii.  are there actual meters, even if you navigate to another screen, similar to the r-09?  regardless, can someone show me what the metering looks like with a photo.

iii.  i see that there is a jack for a remote.  i havent heard anything about this.  what is the cost, what does it look like, is it even available?

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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #194 on: March 01, 2008, 02:30:15 AM »
i have jumped the gun... :P

here are the answers (and pictures) for questions 2 & 3 in case anyone else had the same questions... i would still like to have a confirmation of #1.

the meters look like this:



and they toggle with a button press that goes between the time elapsed (or left, not sure) and the picture above.

the remote (RC 600) looks like this:



it retails for $89.00 and it has limited functions (record, pause, mark) with a 5 foot cable and a tri-colored led that shows record status and peak levels.  it can also be used with the 660 and 671.

here is a pdf spec sheet:
http://www.d-mpro.com/users/getdownload.asp?DownloadID=302

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