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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #105 on: December 27, 2007, 12:51:38 PM »
Sure, the SD card size determines the filesize...no 2GB splits as we know from the R09, irivers, Microtracks, etc...aaron hast tested this yet with his 4GB card resulting in a 3.78GB file.
Yes, but a WAV over 4GB in size?
Can you please run a test on the 8GB card and see what it does after 4GB of audio?

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« Reply #106 on: December 27, 2007, 01:24:37 PM »
Sure, the SD card size determines the filesize...no 2GB splits as we know from the R09, irivers, Microtracks, etc...aaron hast tested this yet with his 4GB card resulting in a 3.78GB file.
Yes, but a WAV over 4GB in size?
Can you please run a test on the 8GB card and see what it does after 4GB of audio?

As soon as I got my 620, hopefully tomorrow friday, I´ll run the test at 24/48 ;) and check the result.
WAV files seem to be limited to 4GB of size, so I guess the Marantz will do a seamless split at 4GB.
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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #107 on: December 27, 2007, 01:29:46 PM »
Sure, the SD card size determines the filesize...no 2GB splits as we know from the R09, irivers, Microtracks, etc...aaron hast tested this yet with his 4GB card resulting in a 3.78GB file.
Yes, but a WAV over 4GB in size?
Can you please run a test on the 8GB card and see what it does after 4GB of audio?


As cool as this sounds - doesnt this create another set of potential headaches...arent some of these files getting too big for a lot of editors?

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« Reply #108 on: December 27, 2007, 01:31:17 PM »
Sure, the SD card size determines the filesize...no 2GB splits as we know from the R09, irivers, Microtracks, etc...aaron hast tested this yet with his 4GB card resulting in a 3.78GB file.
Yes, but a WAV over 4GB in size?
Can you please run a test on the 8GB card and see what it does after 4GB of audio?


As cool as this sounds - doesnt this create another set of potential headaches...arent some of these files getting too big for a lot of editors?
I don´t think I´ll ever record a concert resulting in a file larger than 2-3GB.
The 620 has the auto-trackmark(known from MD-recorders) feature so ie. for meetings you can have a new track created automatically after 5,10,...minutes or 1,2,...12 hours.

The most important "breakthrough" is the non-existing 2GB-split problem ;).
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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #109 on: December 27, 2007, 01:59:16 PM »
Sure, the SD card size determines the filesize...no 2GB splits as we know from the R09, irivers, Microtracks, etc...aaron hast tested this yet with his 4GB card resulting in a 3.78GB file.
Yes, but a WAV over 4GB in size?
Can you please run a test on the 8GB card and see what it does after 4GB of audio?


As cool as this sounds - doesnt this create another set of potential headaches...arent some of these files getting too big for a lot of editors?
I don´t think I´ll ever record a concert resulting in a file larger than 2-3GB.
The 620 has the auto-trackmark(known from MD-recorders) feature so ie. for meetings you can have a new track created automatically after 5,10,...minutes or 1,2,...12 hours.

The most important "breakthrough" is the non-existing 2GB-split problem ;).


I totally agree.No more 2GB-split is awesome.
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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #110 on: December 27, 2007, 04:08:35 PM »

The most important "breakthrough" is the non-existing 2GB-split problem ;).


What's the file format used on this machine?

Quoted from Wikipedia: "The WAV format is limited to files that are less than 4 GB in size, due to its use of a 32 bit unsigned integer to record the file size header (some programs limit the file size to 2-4 GB)."

So if this recorder uses standard WAV there is still a 4GB limit. Not that that should be a big problem, but just wondering if that's the case here. Is it?

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« Reply #111 on: December 28, 2007, 03:53:37 AM »
My Marantz PMD620 arrived 10 minutes ago  ;D.
Will run the 24/48 test with the 8GB card later as soon as the 620´s temperature changed from "frozen" to "room" ;).
test is running....
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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #112 on: December 28, 2007, 05:35:42 AM »
ive got a 620 here

seems nice and starts quick

compared to a zoom h2 i tested in a store find it difficult to aim toward a certain noise source as mics seem to want to record 360 degrees

also, i wonder if it or any device can charge batteries while they are inside so that they dont need to be taken out. though marantz sems more robust compared to edirol, batteries come out easier out of the edirol

and has anyone made tests how long it can record in 16 bit 44.1 wav or 192khz mp3?

a firmware update would be good to make it record 320k mp3


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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #113 on: December 28, 2007, 06:06:16 AM »
ive got a 620 here

seems nice and starts quick

compared to a zoom h2 i tested in a store find it difficult to aim toward a certain noise source as mics seem to want to record 360 degrees

also, i wonder if it or any device can charge batteries while they are inside so that they dont need to be taken out. though marantz sems more robust compared to edirol, batteries come out easier out of the edirol

and has anyone made tests how long it can record in 16 bit 44.1 wav or 192khz mp3?

a firmware update would be good to make it record 320k mp3



On a 8GB card I can record 7h48min at highest quality 24bit/48kHz.

At 16bit 44.1kHz you get 12h48min on a 8GB card, 6h24min on a 4GB card or 3h12min on a 2GB card.

Press "Display" and you´ll see remaining rec-time depending on your card and bitrate.

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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #114 on: December 28, 2007, 06:33:31 AM »
compared to a zoom h2 i tested in a store find it difficult to aim toward a certain noise source as mics seem to want to record 360 degrees

The PMD620 has one pair of omni-directional mics, whereas the H2 has two pairs (front/90 and back/120) of cardioids...

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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #115 on: December 28, 2007, 07:06:23 AM »
Quote from: Marantz Technical Support, Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:39:10 -0500
Hello,

Thanks for your message.

There are no plans for a firmware update to allow the screen to be turned off at this point in time.

Feel free to contact technical support at (866) 405-2154 if you have any further questions.

Best regards,

Technical Support
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(866) 405-2154 - Toll Free
www.d-mpro.com
www.denondj.com

And this just in from the folks at Marantz...Guess there won't be a way to turn the screen off in the immediate future.  However the OLED is pretty subdued, as I mentioned earlier.

EDIT:  Also, I guess if they receive enough inquiries they may decide to make an update.  I doubt the low level of light coming from it will be problematic for anyone, though...
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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #116 on: December 28, 2007, 07:59:59 AM »
8GB card test-update: 24/48 internal mics with 2 rechargeables: 3h48min and still showing full battery on the display.
soon a new file should be created at the 4GB limit at about 4h....

The 620 saves the file and shuts down at 4GB which is 3h52:01 at 24bit/48kHz on my 8GB card.The recorded seamless filesize is 3.906.248KB
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« Reply #117 on: December 28, 2007, 08:20:24 AM »
Am starting the 2nd file now to check the capacity of the 2 rechargeables....
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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #118 on: December 28, 2007, 09:47:01 AM »
8GB card test-update: 24/48 internal mics with 2 rechargeables: 3h48min and still showing full battery on the display.
soon a new file should be created at the 4GB limit at about 4h....

The 620 saves the file and shuts down at 4GB which is 3h52:01 at 24bit/48kHz on my 8GB card.The recorded seamless filesize is 3.906.248KB
Hmmm. Size is not 4GiB but maybe 4GB. (4.000.000.000 bytes)
Shutdown is not implying seamless continuation after 4GB.
The MT also had the 4GiB issue....
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Re: Tapers Section World Scoop (LOL) - Marantz PMD620
« Reply #119 on: December 28, 2007, 10:21:18 AM »
8GB card test-update: 24/48 internal mics with 2 rechargeables: 3h48min and still showing full battery on the display.
soon a new file should be created at the 4GB limit at about 4h....

The 620 saves the file and shuts down at 4GB which is 3h52:01 at 24bit/48kHz on my 8GB card.The recorded seamless filesize is 3.906.248KB
Hmmm. Size is not 4GiB but maybe 4GB. (4.000.000.000 bytes)
Shutdown is not implying seamless continuation after 4GB.
The MT also had the 4GiB issue....

I personally will NEVER run into this "issue" as I´ll never tape a show that lasts 3h52min AND I never use 48kHz but 44.1kHz.
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SO this is not really a big issue for tapers IMHO.
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