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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2007, 08:36:23 AM »
Why don't they hack of the mics and drop the price a $100  >:(
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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2007, 08:45:04 AM »
"There is a 3 hour and 55 min recording limit in 24/48..."

That's because the maximum file size is 2GB, like most recorders.  The D50 will automatically start a new file when that limit is reached.  No word from Sony if the split is seamless.

At 24/48 the recording time is 1:54 at the 2GB limit on any recorder.   The fact that they're giving the 4GB time limit leads me to believe there is no "2GB problem".  We shall see.

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2007, 09:11:26 AM »
"There is a 3 hour and 55 min recording limit in 24/48..."

That's because the maximum file size is 2GB, like most recorders.  The D50 will automatically start a new file when that limit is reached.  No word from Sony if the split is seamless.

At 24/48 the recording time is 1:54 at the 2GB limit on any recorder.   The fact that they're giving the 4GB time limit leads me to believe there is no "2GB problem".  We shall see.



This looks like a D1, without the meters, a bit smaller and lighter, with digi-in, for 1/3 the price.  If it has the same A/D and preamp as the D1, it will blow away the other small machines.  And, yes, the split at 2GB will be seamless (if it is like the D1).  The switch from internal flash to memory stick on the D1 required a menu action, so that took a few seconds to accomplish, and normal 8GB memory stick pro duo did not work in the D1 (well, it recorded as if less than 4GB was available, though 4GB normal memory stick and duo worked fine, and though they said you needed "high speed" versions with the racing stripes.  There is no "high speed" 8GB yet.).  I hope to get a look at this at the NY AES this weekend.

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2007, 09:38:39 AM »
"There is a 3 hour and 55 min recording limit in 24/48..."

That's because the maximum file size is 2GB, like most recorders.  The D50 will automatically start a new file when that limit is reached.  No word from Sony if the split is seamless.

At 24/48 the recording time is 1:54 at the 2GB limit on any recorder.   The fact that they're giving the 4GB time limit leads me to believe there is no "2GB problem".  We shall see.



It might be a "dual mono" situation, where each channel at 24 bit has a maximum filesize of 2gb (which is just under 4 hours).  I think the "2GB problem" still applies - they're just handling the files differently.
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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2007, 11:23:47 AM »
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Why don't they hack of the mics and drop the price a $100

Absolutely. It might be cool to have those mics for speech or something non musical. I wouldn't mind a cheap but good two track bit bucket. One that wont explode on me and is reliable. I don't have a good two track rig right now. I would love to be able to bring mics, a stand, my V3 and a bucket to some shows. Not to mention an easy patch machine for when I don't want to tape but wouldn't mind a patch. This is looking like a decent deal though. 8gb might be sweeter of course.
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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2007, 11:41:46 AM »
I wonder if it would VOID my warranty if I used a hacksaw to chop off those fugly protruding mics and their roll cage.

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2007, 12:15:57 PM »
"Why don't they hack of the mics and drop the price $100"

This makes sense to me, but I think Sony won't consider this
until they finally give up on the Hi-MD minidisc recorder for USA.
The SonyStyle web site doesn't display the minidisc machines
any longer, but Sony's pro web site (Broadcast and Business
Solutions) contines to offer the MZ-M200.  At $440, it's BBSC's
cheapest "hi-fi" recorder.

It took Sony 2 years to remove the VU-meters from the PCM-D1.
Maybe we'll see a D50 without mics in Fall, 2009.

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2007, 12:37:36 PM »
I've heard the PCM-D1's built in mics yield steller results - they'll
essentially blow away r09's. I wonder if they are the exact same ones
on the pcm-d50?

Another feature of the D1 is it's built out of Titanium - it's a really rugged
unit forsure. Wonder if that is carried over on the pcm-d50?

I say instead of removing the built in mics and lowering the price $100,
replace the built in mics with onboard xlr connectors and give it a high
end preamp and keep the price the same.

Yeah, digi-in! I wonder if it's 'crippled' though like their md players? Transfers with
!@#$% SonicStage blows chunks!

The pcm-d1 was ridiculously over priced IMHO. The d50 seems much
more reasonably priced. I'm guessing they are able to lower the price
on the newer one because they've covered most of the R&D cost with the d1.

This could be a killer unit...

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2007, 01:13:51 PM »
interesting indeed.  Will follow this development.  as someone who does interviewing on a semi-regular basis, it could be a logical multi-purpose tool.  Also, not bad for throwing down on a table at a jazz show when you don't feel like bringing a full rig along.
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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2007, 01:46:23 PM »
Curious how you would run Optical in without an outboard AD?
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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2007, 02:02:00 PM »
Curious how you would run Optical in without an outboard AD?

you wouldn't.  as with all S/PDIF inputs, you'd need to do the A/D conversion elsewhere.

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2007, 02:31:34 PM »
looks like there is a 6'wired remote and a dead rats wind screen available as extras.

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2007, 02:46:36 PM »
Looks interesting...  :hmmm:

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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2007, 02:57:30 PM »
looks like there is a 6'wired remote and a dead rats wind screen available as extras.

Anyone know the what the buttons are on the remote? I guess one of them is a REC.

Looks interesting... shame about the mics...don't think anyone here will use them. They could have made it detachable like the MT or the MR-1.

Seems Marantz is in the competition, too with their new portable Marantz PMD620....Don't know if that has digital in - anyone know?
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Re: Sony's new $600 recorder PCM-D50
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2007, 03:44:22 PM »
Why don't they hack of the mics and drop the price a $100  >:(

That would make this box less interesting to the ENG/reporter crowd.  Why would Sony want to do that?

On the other hand, I would like to see someone finally get onboard mics RIGHT for once.  Looks like a step in the right direction with the adjustable angle.......  Heres for hoping!

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