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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: waltmon on May 07, 2014, 12:07:29 PM
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Been listening to a lot of sample comparisons of his product line...pretty impressive stuff. I think he started with modding Oktavas and now has his own line of products. He does a great job of producing the Nuemann and Schoeps sound for significantly less coin.
Good deals on matched sets. Was curious if anyone in the TS community were running his stuff.
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interesting.
I'd like to try a pair of those mod'd 012's w/the Hyper cap.
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I like the Oktavas. My fave WSP recording of the year in 08 from Vegas was Oktavas...way better than any other source I heard of that show. Mods are supposed to really improve. He sells modded versions of all the caps and bodies.
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I know how to use Google and all, but could you post a link? Assuming he has a web page?
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http://www.oktavamod.com/
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Interesting.
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^^ thanks for posting the link. Helps others quickly see what these mods are too
Interesting indeed! Without shelling out the $$ to find out myself, consider me interested in how they really compare to the real deal!
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Busman is half the price of Jolly in reference to Oktava modding and it is pretty much the same mod as jolly but done by him. He did my MC-012 bodies in 08 and they sound amazing(spaced omni's). I would be willing to loan out if someone wants to try out.
Todd
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Heard of John Bonnell?
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I taped both of these using Joly modded MK-012 with cardioid caps.
P-Funk Iron City Birmingham, AL 2014-05-18
https://www.dropbox.com/l/bLKmH0EzhfTFRCFZ7Ex4Mt?
dfc, balcony railing
JGBCB Smith's Olde Bar Atlanta, GA 2014-05-30
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rn46i150cn0fs3b/AAC0Xdpm-OrTSgzQY6jzs5-Ca (mp3)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1ghx9243urrmoyc/AAA5wMviaSrK9qzgRsDJtlhTa (wav)
dfc, 4' fob, ~10' high
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Appreciate u sharing these. Ive spoke with MJ numerous times...his experience is mostly from a studio perspective do its great to get a field report. One of my fave WSP recordings was unmodded Oktavas...excited to check these out.
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Wow his shop is about 20 minutes from my house
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I have been using his MJE-384K capsules for my Rode NT5's for a few months now. Really nice. A while ago I recorded one of my band's concerts. This is a wind band, about 35 people in a horseshoe in front of the conductor. The mics were behind and above the conductor in roughly NOS configuration.
Very nice results. I had to add about 3dB shelf EQ above 2000Hz or so so make the trumpets sound like trumpets. Took the EQ very well.
I like them.
Regards, Christine
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I just tried to ABX the MJ cap sample vs the NT5 cap sample on the Joly web page and definitely could not tell them apart. I'm very pleasantly surprised that a mic seller offers level matched same source clips for comparison.
Fran
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I found my MJE-384K caps to be VERY different from the standard NT5 caps. For my purposes, the NT5 caps are a little "harsh", while the MJE-384K's are much more mellow.
Regards, Christine
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I found my MJE-384K caps to be VERY different from the standard NT5 caps. For my purposes, the NT5 caps are a little "harsh", while the MJE-384K's are much more mellow.
Regards, Christine
Have you by any chance done an ABX with the samples provided by Joly?
Please take this in the right way. Simple uncontrolled listening tests are a proven source of bad information. Our ear/brain rig simply can't hold onto audio memory for long enough to switch capsules on mics, we're intensely subject to label bias, and we get our impression from our point of attention, so listening to a bright section vs a warm section will through off our perception severely. This is not a knock on your abilities, this is simply the status of human evolution in regards to audio (and lots of other things).
Fran
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Have you by any chance done an ABX with the samples provided by Joly?
Please take this in the right way. Simple uncontrolled listening tests are a proven source of bad information. Our ear/brain rig simply can't hold onto audio memory for long enough to switch capsules on mics, we're intensely subject to label bias, and we get our impression from our point of attention, so listening to a bright section vs a warm section will through off our perception severely. This is not a knock on your abilities, this is simply the status of human evolution in regards to audio (and lots of other things).
Fran
You are right that our brains can easily trick us and no, I haven't done an ABX testing on his samples. No harm done :) In my defense ;) the kind of material I usually record (to me!) sounds very different from the drum, guitar and vocal samples usually provided by microphone manufacturers. Recording a wind orchestra or big band with a near coincident pair sounds very different (to me!) than close miking drums or guitar. Perhaps I haven't yet learned to pick the right things out of a drum or guitar recording :-[
(Aside: the fact that most microphone people advertise their products using drums, guitar and vocals makes it difficult for me (personally!) to pick a microphone suitable to record a section of 5 trumpets or saxophones).
I have been looking for an appropriate AB sample in my recordings. I have never done any real AB recording with these mics, but have found something that is pretty close. In the two clips below you hear the same big band, same music. Recorded on the same Tascam DR-100mkII. One with Rode NT5 stock capsules, the other with Rode NT5 MJE-384K's. These were rehearsals, recorded months apart. If memory serves the MJE-384K recording was done in the room adjacent to the stock NT5 recording. Similar acoustics wise, but somewhat smaller. And it sounds like we didn't have a full saxophone section on the stock NT5 session. The volume of these samples was adjusted to make "Maximum RMS amplitude" the same, so they should sound similar volume wise. No other processing.
Regards, Christine