Topic: noob guide to open taping mount patterns?

[rhinowing]

anyone have this link saved? I remember it did a great job of explaining DIN, NOS, X-Y, etc...could use a peek at it right now

[Big Perm]

The rule of thumb is that ORTF is most popular outdoor where there's not as much reverberant sounds, where DIN and DIN(a) are used indoors.  DIN and DIN(a) have the 90 degree angle, which vs 120 would tend to minimize the amount of sound that's coming from bounced sources instead of directly from the stage.  ORTF is also popular when you know that the venue has great sound...and you'd like to simulate the overall sound in the venue as closely as possible. ORTF is also popular for lip of stage or close soundfield recording.
 
where did they come from:
ORTF (French) - Office de Radiodiffusion Television Française.
NOS (Dutch) - Nederlandsche Omroep Stichting.
DIN (German) - Deutsches Institut fur Normung

Info from email sent to me from Louie aka NOLAfishwater thanks Louie!!

[rhinowing]

The rule of thumb is that ORTF is most popular outdoor where there's not as much reverberant sounds, where DIN and DIN(a) are used indoors.  DIN and DIN(a) have the 90 degree angle, which vs 120 would tend to minimize the amount of sound that's coming from bounced sources instead of directly from the stage.  ORTF is also popular when you know that the venue has great sound...and you'd like to simulate the overall sound in the venue as closely as possible. ORTF is also popular for lip of stage or close soundfield recording.
 
where did they come from:
ORTF (French) - Office de Radiodiffusion Television Française.
NOS (Dutch) - Nederlandsche Omroep Stichting.
DIN (German) - Deutsches Institut fur Normung

Info from email sent to me from Louie aka NOLAfishwater thanks Louie!!

thanks! +t

I also thought there used to be a site with actual diagrams of angles and such for the various patterns?

[darby]

start here:
http://www.dpamicrophones.com/en/Microphone-University.aspx

or here:
http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/index.html

EDIT:
here's another site that shows you how angle and spacing effect the response of your mics
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/Visualization-NOS.htm

[rhinowing]

start here:
http://www.dpamicrophones.com/en/Microphone-University.aspx

or here:
http://www.oade.com/Tapers_Section/index.html

EDIT:
here's another site that shows you how angle and spacing effect the response of your mics
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/Visualization-NOS.htm

thanks!!!

[mosquito]

Did you see the first mic thread: README1st! Stereophonic Zoom, Mic configs for dummies & LD mics, + more ? 

The first link has diagrams too.

[stevetoney]

FWIW, I'm finding that the more I use the SZ technique rather than the 'rule of thumb' that was suggested ealier in this thread, the better my recordings seem to be sounding.

[shaggy28]

this may be what you were talking about.
http://www.microphone-data.com/pdfs/Stereo%20zoom.pdf

[dallman]

There is a sticky at the top of the Microphones and Setup which we are in right now, page that shows mic configurations and more.

[steve4134]

http://homerecording.about.com/od/microphones101/ss/stereo_mics.htm


My fav and very easy to understand.......

Steve

[flipp]

http://homerecording.about.com/od/microphones101/ss/stereo_mics.htm

If the pics that accompany the above are correct, then I've been been setting up listing my configs all wrong. In X-Y those mics are more like 105/110 than 90 as well as the caps not being conincident and in ORTF there is no f'in way those caps are 17cm apart.

[spyder9]

My general techniques that I apply in the field:

1)  If DFC, run DIN.
2)  If off-center, run XY.
3)  If way left or right, aim directly at the stack in front of you.

My 2 cents.

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

lol.  All of those are wrong.  Who in their right mind would put that up on a site?

EDIT:  It appears to be a member here.  Joe Shambro.

http://homerecording.about.com/od/microphones101/ss/stereo_mics.htm

If the pics that accompany the above are correct, then I've been been setting up listing my configs all wrong. In X-Y those mics are more like 105/110 than 90 as well as the caps not being conincident and in ORTF there is no f'in way those caps are 17cm apart.

[travelinbeat]

lol.  All of those are wrong.  Who in their right mind would put that up on a site?

EDIT:  It appears to be a member here.  Joe Shambro.

http://homerecording.about.com/od/microphones101/ss/stereo_mics.htm

If the pics that accompany the above are correct, then I've been been setting up listing my configs all wrong. In X-Y those mics are more like 105/110 than 90 as well as the caps not being conincident and in ORTF there is no f'in way those caps are 17cm apart.

[Nick's Picks]

http://www.dpamicrophones.com/en/Microphone-University.aspx


or these...

A-B stereo
Blumlein / XY with side address mics
Binaural
NOS
ORTF...
you dont need pics for DIN.   just think 90deg and dollar bill apart.