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Re: Shotgun reomendations
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2011, 11:01:55 PM »
Dsatz thanks for your repsonse....Although I have not been recording 40 years....I have been about 13-14 years....  Mostly  jamband stuff, blue grass, country style rock, the dead, some low key acoustic stuff but not much.  I curently have many options....  My main choice of mics are MBHO648's with a set of LK omnis, wide cards, cards and hyper caps.....from my experience through trial and error,   I tend to use omnis outside, onstage or very close...wide cards outside, on stage, very close and in excellent sounding rooms.. Cards outside, mid way in rooms.  Hypers outside in low wind conditions, midway to back of the room or those shity sounding rooms that  I want to combat as much reflection as possible....  I also have a set of nak cm300 with the cards, omnis and shot gun caps....  I have used the shotguns mid room in crapy sounding rooms with good results.   I  too believe that having as many options as possible in terms of mics is a good idea... still kickin myself I sold my Rode NT2000 LD's..  my orignal post was more a mission on what people seem to like.  I like my nak shotguns... but just wondering what others are using.... as I may want something a little more modern.  But I know modern doesn't always mean better.....just modern.

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Re: Shotgun reomendations
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2011, 11:49:57 AM »
From a recording engineers standpoint, dsatz is 100% right about shotgun microphones and in his posts he clearly explains why. They are for movie dialog and that's it. But how many times have we been criticized by professionals for spending the amount of money we do on equipment for use in uncontrolled enviroments. I've been blasted more than once. "Your'e doing what with DPA's Neumann's, Schoeps. What are you nuts!" So how crazy can it be to use 2 shotguns in a stereo pair or one shotgun as a center blend. Sure they don't produce the desried results for a stereo recording, but they sure do cut out a good portion of things we don't want in our recordings, such as crowd noise.

I for one would not want to be stuck in the back of Madison Square Garden with cards or even hypercards. In our little hobby of attempting to recreate what we hear live, more often than not at insane distances from the sound source, I believe shotguns do have a place. Hell, I've even used them FOB with satisfying results. They were not my first choice, but luckily I had them as one of my card caps was dead that night. :P
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Re: Shotgun reomendations
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2011, 05:20:51 PM »
I have heard some SMOKIN mk41 sources from MSG, so hypers are better than one may think :)
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Re: Shotgun reomendations
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2011, 05:54:12 PM »
I have heard some SMOKIN mk41 sources from MSG, so hypers are better than one may think :)

here is a comp of hyper>shotguns from the Pepsi Center in Denver 
Chuck and I were side by side running thru V3s... he was running 480s and I was running 460s
I like both sources, but it gives you some idea how much crowd noise is rejected on my source running guns

http://www.archive.org/details/thedead2009-05-07.akg468.flac16
http://www.archive.org/details/TheDead2009-05-07.C-483

 

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Re: Shotgun reomendations
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2011, 11:29:19 PM »
The Guns are more narrow...they should be....but not sure which sounds better...
DPA/HEB 4060's > R09HR
MBHO648/KA100Lk/KA200/KA300/KA500 > SD702

 

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