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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2005, 09:07:20 PM »
I ended up running WTF for an opening act last week.

For those not familliar with this method, it is omni cap on the left mic and card on the right, 90* spaced 20cm

At least I noticed and fixed it before the main act.

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when taping phish albany in 99, we were running my buds LD cad mics and one is omni, the other is card or hyper, sounds interesting :)
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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2005, 07:45:06 PM »
Looking for ideas on which mic config to use this Friday when Hot Buttered Rum String Band comes to Tempe. Here's a photos of them the last time they were. As you can, the ceiling is very low. Our stands are setup center/20ft back. The cieiling actually gets highers when your back more than 20ft, so we like to stay in the low area. Sounds just aweful beyond that. There are 2 stacks on each side of the stage (not in view in this pic) but it's mainly right in front of that blue cooler stage left.

I'll be using 480/ck63's ( don't have the 61's) - first time out with these.

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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2005, 12:01:07 PM »
check out this config.. haven't listendbut might work just right on-stage
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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2005, 10:48:36 PM »
I think I'm going to run these ORTF and see what happens.  Can someone take a look and see if these mics look like they're setup correctly.  How much difference would someone with 'good ears' notice if your off on the degrees or centimeters by any measureable amount?  The goal for this was setup is 17cm 110 degrees. I know the 17 is there, had to eye the 110.





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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2005, 12:52:18 AM »
I know the 17 is there, had to eye the 110.

Well, when I overlayed my digital protractor...no, just kidding.  Looks pretty darn good to me.  Try it out and if it sounds good to your ears - stick with it!
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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2005, 01:01:31 AM »
nice, altho, i personally wouldnt run the 63's ortf in that small of a place, i may even run like 70*, with a smaller spacing on caps than 17cm, maybe only 3-4" instead of almost 6.5-7"

worked well when ive done it in less than ideal situations :)

def looks close enuf to me to 110*
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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2005, 01:05:37 AM »
nice, altho, i personally wouldnt run the 63's ortf in that small of a place

Oooo...I just assumed they were cards.  If cardioid, the ORTF looks good.  If hypers, run 'em DIN!
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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2005, 01:13:01 AM »
nice, altho, i personally wouldnt run the 63's ortf in that small of a place

Oooo...I just assumed they were cards. If cardioid, the ORTF looks good. If hypers, run 'em DIN!

yeah, DIN may work out REAL well, the stage looks a lil bigger than the first glance i gave it :)
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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2005, 01:47:41 AM »
Thanks for the feedback!  Just re-adjusted to DIN - I think I'll sample this tomorrow night taping a local bluegrass band (same venue) before Friday's show and see how that works. 

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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2005, 03:22:28 PM »
Thanks for the feedback!  Just re-adjusted to DIN - I think I'll sample this tomorrow night taping a local bluegrass band (same venue) before Friday's show and see how that works.


good luck and let us know :)
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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2005, 05:44:30 AM »
Got AKG's ?  That's all I can say...  :o

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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2005, 03:56:20 PM »
Got AKG's ?  That's all I can say...  :o

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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2008, 07:03:17 PM »
Anyone Ever try running this RAI?

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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2008, 03:02:46 AM »
when i first got my 481's back in 1999, I ran alot of ORTF and NOS w/ them on my old AKG T-Bar. But since getting the Vert Bar about 5-6 years ago, I started running ALOT of DIN and fell in LOVE ;D Then I got ck63's ine arly 2005 and fell in love w/ DINa. Even now that I have teh active MBHO's I mainly(99%) of teh time, are in an ideal location, and use teh DINa bar w/ the hypers. sounds great and very consistently. if really close, i like running hypers/NOS or cards/NOS
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Re: DIN? NOS? ORTF? XY? WTF???
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2008, 07:38:48 AM »
DIN is pretty satisfying no matter what sort of mics you run.
hard to mess that one up.
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