Topic: Hyper caps... when?

[redbook]

I have no idea of what are these and guess what... I haven't found anything using the search!
So before killing me let me say I'm legitimated to ask about them 

From what I've seen these are used to tape for taping when you are so far from stage to use even cards right?
Please enlight me about these. I am going to do a few stadiums this summer and I might be interested.

I have some 853s, how much would cost me a pair of these?

Thanks

[Brian]

keep searching, i found plenty.

but yeah......you have the right idea.  hypers help better focus in on your sound source.

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I have no idea of what are these and guess what... I haven't found anything using the search!
So before killing me let me say I'm legitimated to ask about them 

From what I've seen these are used to tape for taping when you are so far from stage to use even cards right?
Please enlight me about these. I am going to do a few stadiums this summer and I might be interested.

I have some 853s, how much would cost me a pair of these?

Thanks

When I ran my AKG's, I only/always used hypers. Now I'm running 853's and use card's but will be picking up some hyper's soon. I found a place online that sells them for $28 each. I can't think of the name off the top of my head. PM me if you're interested and I'll figure it out.... or post it here.

[creekfreak]

hypers are good for many uses.

Far field recording is one use, say you are taping from the lawn at a outside shed with no relay tower..hypers or shotguns for that matter come in handy, would even conisder using them under the shell of certain outdoor venus that have that boomy factor (I.E. Darien Lake) unless you are really close.

I use mine pretty much all the time taping in doors unless I am lip of stage or on stage. They are good for crappy sounding venus, cut down on room refection and some crowd noise, but watch out for the pick up pattern in the rear lobe.

Some hypers are different than others though...I find the mk41 to perform well in almost any situation, unless their is wind.

[redbook]

Thanks for your responses.

I guess it's a matter of trial and error question, as always, determining which caps are the best in each case.
In stadiums these might be very useful, specially when you are not so close to stage.

Which are the cons of using hypers (in addition to possible crow noise)?

PS stejampzy sent you a pm

[creekfreak]

Thanks for your responses.

I guess it's a matter of trial and error question, as always, determining which caps are the best in each case.
In stadiums these might be very useful, specially when you are not so close to stage.

Which are the cons of using hypers (in addition to possible crow noise)?

PS stejampzy sent you a pm

keep in mind hypers actually do a good job of attenuating off axis crowd noise. Thing you have to watch for is people that like to stand right behind the mics and be loud.

Yes, if you are far back in a stadium recording hypers would work also unless its really windy, then you will get a shit load of wind since wind and hypers don't do too well.

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if you are far back in a stadium recording hypers would work also unless its really windy, then you will get a shit load of wind since wind and hypers don't do too well.

Better pick up some omni's and shotgun's too then.

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

I have no idea of what are these and guess what... I haven't found anything using the search!
So before killing me let me say I'm legitimated to ask about them 

From what I've seen these are used to tape for taping when you are so far from stage to use even cards right?
Please enlight me about these. I am going to do a few stadiums this summer and I might be interested.

I have some 853s, how much would cost me a pair of these?

Thanks

When I ran my AKG's, I only/always used hypers. Now I'm running 853's and use card's but will be picking up some hyper's soon. I found a place online that sells them for $28 each. I can't think of the name off the top of my head. PM me if you're interested and I'll figure it out.... or post it here.

That's funny, I just bought a pair from the same place (I'm assuming) TODAY. The total for both was almost what everyone else is charging for a pair.

http://www.alphasoundandlighting.com/overheadmics.html

They were out of stock on omni's, I thought I'd pick up a set if they were as cheap as the hyper elements.

[creekfreak]

if you are far back in a stadium recording hypers would work also unless its really windy, then you will get a shit load of wind since wind and hypers don't do too well.

Better pick up some omni's and shotgun's too then.

how are shotguns in the wind? Never used them, would figure it would be worse than hypers

[F.O.Bean]

if you are far back in a stadium recording hypers would work also unless its really windy, then you will get a shit load of wind since wind and hypers don't do too well.

Better pick up some omni's and shotgun's too then.

how are shotguns in the wind? Never used them, would figure it would be worse than hypers

exactly right

but for the record, i ran hypers all of moedown last summer and if anyone has been there, it gets windy cause its on a ski resort

i had the dpa screens and they held up well for the most part, but im def getting the shures this year

[Ed.]

i'm a fan of hypers in bars too.  most bar type venues have crappy pa's and lots of talkers.  the hypers are good at zeroing on the sound and not picking up people to the sides.  the back you have to worry about a bit, but just stand behind your stand and you'll be good to go for the most part.

[§†∑∫åµÞ≥¥]

if you are far back in a stadium recording hypers would work also unless its really windy, then you will get a shit load of wind since wind and hypers don't do too well.

Better pick up some omni's and shotgun's too then.

how are shotguns in the wind? Never used them, would figure it would be worse than hypers

D'oh... shotguns for the *non-windy* stadiums then....

[creekfreak]

of course, no wind, use them...I find my mk41's to be very suspectable to wind....last year I used them outdoors and even with windsceens the slightest gut would peg my levels....use the dpa windscreen, maybe I need something thicker

[jdawg]

i'm a fan of hypers in bars too.  most bar type venues have crappy pa's and lots of talkers.  the hypers are good at zeroing on the sound and not picking up people to the sides.  the back you have to worry about a bit, but just stand behind your stand and you'll be good to go for the most part.

Which mic config would help best keeping down the "chatters" from behind when using hypers?  I typically run DINa in this small local (crappy sounding) bar. Or like someone else mentioned, probably best to stand behind your rig. Where we setup the stands is at the point where the back of the room opens up to tables/bar and in front of us is the dance floor/stage. The mics are right under a ceiling divider. It's about 2 feet higher behind us. Thanks for any ideas. Although, I'm thinking there's probably not much I can do.

-john

[Ed.]

i'm a fan of hypers in bars too.  most bar type venues have crappy pa's and lots of talkers.  the hypers are good at zeroing on the sound and not picking up people to the sides.  the back you have to worry about a bit, but just stand behind your stand and you'll be good to go for the most part.

Which mic config would help best keeping down the "chatters" from behind when using hypers? I typically run DINa in this small local (crappy sounding) bar. Or like someone else mentioned, probably best to stand behind your rig. Where we setup the stands is at the point where the back of the room opens up to tables/bar and in front of us is the dance floor/stage. The mics are right under a ceiling divider. It's about 2 feet higher behind us. Thanks for any ideas. Although, I'm thinking there's probably not much I can do.

-john

i try to run din, but i must admit sometimes i don't run any real configuration and just aim my mics at the outside edge of the speakers.  i usually fly my mics high enuf to be above head height and on the same plain as the speakers (if they hang from the ceiling, which most bar type venues do).  i have my bag on the floor behind the stand and i stand behind that, which tends to keep out most of the chatter.