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AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« on: August 31, 2006, 03:48:07 PM »
I just wanted to put all the capsules and accessories in one thread for the 460's.  Not sure if I've covered everything so please add and make corrections if needed.  My only question is can someone please clarify which capsules accept the A60M Reducing Rings, and the A51 & A61 swivel joints?
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AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories:
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CK1 – Cardioid Capsule
CK2 – Omni Capsule
CK3 – Hypercardioid Capsule
A60M – Reducing Ring
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mk46 – Active cable
CK1x – Cardioid Capsule
CK2x – Omni Capusle
CK3x – Hypercardioid Capusle
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CK61 – Cardioid Capsule
CK62 – Omni Capsule
CK63 – Hypercardioid Capsule
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A51 – Swivel Joint
A61 – Swivel Joint
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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2006, 03:56:24 PM »
All 460 and 480 bodies accept the A60 rings.  All AKG 451 style capsules (CK1, CK2, CK3) fit into the reducing rings, allowing their use on the larger 460 bodies.  CK4 are reported to not work with the rings and work only on the 451.  A61 works with 460/480.  A51 only works with 451/452, unless of course you couple it with the A60M rings.  Then I believe you can use the CK1,2,3 caps with the A51 swivel to an A60 ring on a 460/480.

Don't forget the VR-61 and VR-62 extension tubes either (and their 451 line counterparts the VR-1 and VR2).

In addition to this, you can use EVERY capsule built by Blue in some way, shape or form.  All of the screw on lollipop caps fit into the A60M ring.  All of the bayonet style capsules can be used with a custom adapter built by a machine shop in the UK (sold on Ebay), along with the A60M ring.

In addition to this, you can also use Gefell M7, M8 and M9 capsules with this bayonet adapter and the ring.
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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2006, 04:32:49 PM »
All 460 and 480 bodies accept the A60 rings.  All AKG 451 style capsules (CK1, CK2, CK3) fit into the reducing rings, allowing their use on the larger 460 bodies.  CK4 are reported to not work with the rings and work only on the 451.  A61 works with 460/480.  A51 only works with 451/452, unless of course you couple it with the A60M rings.  Then I believe you can use the CK1,2,3 caps with the A51 swivel to an A60 ring on a 460/480.

Don't forget the VR-61 and VR-62 extension tubes either (and their 451 line counterparts the VR-1 and VR2).

In addition to this, you can use EVERY capsule built by Blue in some way, shape or form.  All of the screw on lollipop caps fit into the A60M ring.  All of the bayonet style capsules can be used with a custom adapter built by a machine shop in the UK (sold on Ebay), along with the A60M ring.

In addition to this, you can also use Gefell M7, M8 and M9 capsules with this bayonet adapter and the ring.

Do you know if there is anything that fits the CK6x capsules?  As you probably know I'm working on an active system for these, but I'm having a hard time getting a good connection to the capsule (both the outside and the middle pin).  Are there any parts and/or third party solutions that would allow a good connection?  I'm thinking of the reducing ring, swivel connectors, or perhaps just a part on the 460/480 bodies.  All I need is a connecting piece, then I can put a tube/collette behind this.   (I've got a question about this over at the AKG support forums too.)

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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2006, 04:35:11 PM »
I don't think any of the adaptors fit the ck6_ caps.  I think the only things AKG manufactures that fit the ck6_ caps other than the bodies are the VR-61/62 tubes and the A61 swivels.
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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2006, 04:44:22 PM »
There's also a ck8x capsule.  The attachment also shows the polar response plots for all the ck_x caps when paired with the mk46/c460b.
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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2006, 04:47:17 PM »
MK46 info and ck1x schematic.
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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2006, 04:50:40 PM »
c460b info showing A60M reducer ring and ck3 capsule.
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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2006, 04:53:08 PM »
c460b + ck61 uls info
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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2006, 04:54:05 PM »
c460b + ck62/ck63 uls info
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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2006, 04:57:15 PM »
There's the ck68/ck69-uls shotgun caps as well.
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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2006, 04:57:45 PM »
I don't think any of the adaptors fit the ck6_ caps.  I think the only things AKG manufactures that fit the ck6_ caps other than the bodies are the VR-61/62 tubes and the A61 swivels.

Hey, that's great.  Thanks for the info.

Do you have a picture of the CK1 capsule, showing where the pins/connectors are?  That is what I'm really wondering.  How easy it would be to take one of these caps and run off a battery box.  Not that I have any of these caps.  I'm just curious.

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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2006, 05:01:15 PM »
Interesting reading the differences between the CK1 and CK61.  Unless my eyes are deceiving me, the specs seem to support what my ears have told me for years (that the original CK1 kicks the CK61's ass).
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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2006, 05:02:27 PM »
The CK1 attaches to the mic body the same way as the CK61.  It has that little needle in the middle that fits in a socket on the body.
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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2006, 05:05:02 PM »
This is the end of the mk46 that screws onto the 460 body.  I have some more pics of the ck2x innards that I'll put up in a second.
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Re: AKG 460 Capsules & Accessories
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2006, 05:06:31 PM »
The CK1 attaches to the mic body the same way as the CK61.  It has that little needle in the middle that fits in a socket on the body.

Correct, accept that you need the reducer ring to attach the ck1 to the c460b body.  As seen in the post above.
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