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Outdoor fest mic config
« on: February 06, 2008, 10:02:54 AM »
I've been running my AT-853 mics as split omni's for recording outdoor bluegrass festivals. With 30" of split and omni's facing forward I've been very happy, but looking to improve.
 
Any suggestions for another option?  I have card caps for the mics but don't use them b/c they pick up the wind.  The sound at the taping section is very good, just behind the sound booth and the crowd is not very loud.

The faults with the split omni's are that the recordings have a lot of bass, and the t-bar is 30" wide, I'd like to reduce my visual footprint. 

What are you guys using outdoors? 
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Re: Outdoor fest mic config
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 10:08:28 AM »
I've been running my AT-853 mics as split omni's for recording outdoor bluegrass festivals. With 30" of split and omni's facing forward I've been very happy, but looking to improve.
 
Any suggestions for another option?  I have card caps for the mics but don't use them b/c they pick up the wind.  The sound at the taping section is very good, just behind the sound booth and the crowd is not very loud.

The faults with the split omni's are that the recordings have a lot of bass, and the t-bar is 30" wide, I'd like to reduce my visual footprint. 

What are you guys using outdoors? 

hmm..   a jecklin disk?   although that option wouldnt necessarily reduce your visual footprint, it might cut some of the bass that yer lookin' for..      or try the cards A/B or NOS
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Re: Outdoor fest mic config
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 10:18:54 AM »
I've been running my AT-853 mics as split omni's for recording outdoor bluegrass festivals. With 30" of split and omni's facing forward I've been very happy, but looking to improve.
 
Any suggestions for another option?  I have card caps for the mics but don't use them b/c they pick up the wind.  The sound at the taping section is very good, just behind the sound booth and the crowd is not very loud.

The faults with the split omni's are that the recordings have a lot of bass, and the t-bar is 30" wide, I'd like to reduce my visual footprint. 

What are you guys using outdoors? 

try a baby ball gag or a foam windscreen with a dead rat over it... Will kill all wind noise fer sure.... Use the cards xy

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Re: Outdoor fest mic config
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 11:02:17 AM »
What happens if I use omni's in place of a card's in X-Y, ORTF, or NOS?  I'm wondering b/c they actually aren't true omni's, they are a little directional so I'm thinking I could still get some of the benefits of the stereo configuration without losing the wind resistance of the omni's.  X-Y in particular would reduce some of the bass right?

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Re: Outdoor fest mic config
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 06:47:35 PM »
Deadrats and spit cards maybe

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Re: Outdoor fest mic config
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 07:45:51 PM »
What happens if I use omni's in place of a card's in X-Y, ORTF, or NOS?  I'm wondering b/c they actually aren't true omni's, they are a little directional so I'm thinking I could still get some of the benefits of the stereo configuration without losing the wind resistance of the omni's.  X-Y in particular would reduce some of the bass right?
Omnis too close together gives you almost no channel separation... sounds like mono.  XY probably not so good, NOS-spacing probably OK.

Somewhere here there is a chart for "Healy method", which is based on some solid physics. Basically, if you have your omnis about 8" apart facing outwards (left and right WRT to stage) it will provide some similarity between your ears.  As you go further apart you want to face somewhat forward.  Go here: http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,96672.0.html and look at top of page 2.

I think on the heavy bass, try a roll off in the preamp, or in post.
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