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Title: Settings for CA STC-11 cards+CA 9100 pre+iriver H140 four loud funk rock ?
Post by: Arni99 on May 09, 2007, 05:42:33 AM

Maybe someone can tell me which settings will do a great recording for tonights session:
-loud bass heavy funk-rock show
-small club 300 people max
-good acoustics
-mics: church audio stc-11 cardioids with 4.7k mod
-preamp: church audio st-9100(2 wire = 1/8" = 3.5mm plug)
-recorder: iriver H140 rockboxed

I got Chris´ gear yesterday and ran some tests on my home stereo where I realised the impact of the 4.7k mod with it´s known decrease of about -15dB.
As a result of the decreased sensitivity, I would use lots(80%) of the 9100 gain to compensate the 4.7k mod impact and no gain(0dB) from the iriver´s internal preamp.
100% gain on the 9100-pre are about +23dB according to Chris.

Do you think the iriver´s combined mic/line in will get overloaded by the 9100 pre set at 80% of maximum?

thx for any advice within the next 7 hours ;).
Arni

Title: Re: Settings for Church STC-11 cards+ca 9100 pre+iriver H120 four loud funk rock
Post by: petur on May 09, 2007, 06:12:16 AM

I don't know about your mod but I always start recording by setting my h380 to +15dB and adjust the st-9100 accordingly, and let AGC-safety do its job during the concert. So far I haven't even used the bass-rolloff.

I did an accoustic concert recording last weekend that required lots of gain (100% on the st-9100) and around 15-17 dB on the iriver and noise levels are good. The st-9100 is a super pre-amp ;)

Title: Re: Settings for CA STC-11 cards+CA 9100 pre+iriver H140 four loud funk rock ?
Post by: Arni99 on May 09, 2007, 06:03:08 PM

seems like i nailed my 1st church-audio gear show!  ;D
sounds great from what I´ve heard so far.
it was really really loud....black metal-funk-rock in a small club.

set my rockboxed iriver to +5dB "AGC-safety" and the CA-ST-9100-preamp to 50% gain(knob pointed to 12 o´clock).
in the end levels where still at +5dB gain on the iriver what means the automatic level-reduction was not needed as the levels never clipped ;).
the good thing on the 9100 pre is that all connections are on the top side of the pre(gain-knob, input, output)..so it´s easy to handle when put in your trousers belt.

no normalisation necessary for this recording.
sounds great!

so I can highly recommend Chris Church and his stuff!  ;D

Title: Re: Settings for CA STC-11 cards+CA 9100 pre+iriver H140 four loud funk rock ?
Post by: TheMaestro on May 10, 2007, 09:54:05 PM

I'm glad to hear it turned out well for you.  The 9100 is a really great pre.

Title: Re: Settings for CA STC-11 cards+CA 9100 pre+iriver H140 four loud funk rock ?
Post by: Church-Audio on May 10, 2007, 10:01:46 PM

Thanks guys! I am glad your happy, I worked pretty hard on the 9100 to make it a very small compact preamp that sounds good and has low noise.


Chris

Title: Re: Settings for CA STC-11 cards+CA 9100 pre+iriver H140 four loud funk rock ?
Post by: petur on May 11, 2007, 02:54:18 AM

Quote from: Church-Audio on May 10, 2007, 10:01:46 PM

Thanks guys! I am glad your happy, I worked pretty hard on the 9100 to make it a very small compact preamp that sounds good and has low noise.

Talk about low noise... Last weekend I had my first accoustic recording, and I had to set the st-9100 to max gain. I was affraid it would turn out noisy but it was just perfect.

Thanks again Chris for making this lovely gear :)

Title: Re: Settings for CA STC-11 cards+CA 9100 pre+iriver H140 four loud funk rock ?
Post by: Nixoo on May 12, 2007, 11:54:48 AM

Arni, good to hear everything turned out so well! I just got my stuff this week and am very happy with it! Made some samplerecordings at home and will do some live stuff in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for the advice you gave me, I had a great start!