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If your sony pcm-m10 requires clock to be reset each time you power on, what have you done?

Issue went away and clock now functions
6 (24%)
Contacted sony received reply
1 (4%)
contacted sony, no reply
0 (0%)
returned unit and received unit without issue
0 (0%)
other (please specificy)
18 (72%)

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #345 on: May 19, 2011, 10:07:45 AM »
Checking in. I have 2 M-10's and both have the clock issue. Just did some speed reading thru all four parts and it looks like Sony will just blow this one off. No surprise there. ::)

To recap the options:

1). Send it to LA and probably receive a refurb that may fail in the future. ::)

2). Pound on the stop or menu button to exit clock setup screen and proceed with no clock. :o

3). Set the clock every time you turn it on. :laugh:

4). Set the clock before the lights go down and hope it sticks. ???

5). Or my favorite, leave the M10 home and take the 722. :o

Yes, I tend to agree the clock issue is not that big a deal. The unit is pretty slick. But the clock issue should have been resolved by now.

So Bean, how's my use of smileys!
« Last Edit: May 19, 2011, 12:38:41 PM by ts »

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #346 on: May 19, 2011, 10:36:13 AM »
I have a theory about the reason for the clock problem (which I have not experienced).  My guess, and again this is entirely a guess,  is that there is a separate battery that briefly holds the clock settings. If that battery discharges completely--or, I don't know, stays discharged for X length of time--it does not recharge. So the clock settings don't hold. Perhaps if someone wanted to get into the guts of their PCM-M10 they could find that battery and see if it's replaceable.  Not an experiment I would be willing to make, though.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #347 on: May 19, 2011, 10:51:58 AM »
I have a theory about the reason for the clock problem (which I have not experienced).  My guess, and again this is entirely a guess,  is that there is a separate battery that briefly holds the clock settings. If that battery discharges completely--or, I don't know, stays discharged for X length of time--it does not recharge. So the clock settings don't hold. Perhaps if someone wanted to get into the guts of their PCM-M10 they could find that battery and see if it's replaceable.  Not an experiment I would be willing to make, though.

That is old, proven tech and quite trivial.  It is often accomplished by a lithium coin cell that lasts for many years. In other devices, there is a mechanism that recharges a cell.  Yet this problem happens to folks who haven't left their m10's dead without power.

The most disturbing aspect of the problem is Sony's "eh, whatever" non-fix, non-response.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #348 on: May 19, 2011, 10:38:05 PM »
Checking in. I have 2 M-10's and both have the clock issue. Just did some speed reading thru all four parts and it looks like Sony will just blow this one off. No surprise there. ::)

To recap the options:

1). Send it to LA and probably receive a refurb that may fail in the future. ::)

2). Pound on the stop or menu button to exit clock setup screen and proceed with no clock. :o

3). Set the clock every time you turn it on. :laugh:

4). Set the clock before the lights go down and hope it sticks. ???

5). Or my favorite, leave the M10 home and take the 722. :o

Yes, I tend to agree the clock issue is not that big a deal. The unit is pretty slick. But the clock issue should have been resolved by now.

So Bean, how's my use of smileys!


You get an "A" in my book :)

And I've been one of the lucky ones that do not have that issue.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #349 on: May 20, 2011, 08:26:30 AM »
Checking in. I have 2 M-10's and both have the clock issue. Just did some speed reading thru all four parts and it looks like Sony will just blow this one off. No surprise there. ::)

To recap the options:

1). Send it to LA and probably receive a refurb that may fail in the future. ::)

2). Pound on the stop or menu button to exit clock setup screen and proceed with no clock. :o

3). Set the clock every time you turn it on. :laugh:

4). Set the clock before the lights go down and hope it sticks. ???

5). Or my favorite, leave the M10 home and take the 722. :o

Yes, I tend to agree the clock issue is not that big a deal. The unit is pretty slick. But the clock issue should have been resolved by now.

So Bean, how's my use of smileys!


You get an "A" in my book :)

And I've been one of the lucky ones that do not have that issue.

yea what a pita! Two units purchased about about 6 mos. apart and I have to deal with this crap. Good job Sony. :clapping:

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #350 on: May 20, 2011, 09:28:28 AM »
I've owned 2 units and have not had the clock issue  :D :) ::) ;) :P ;D :-X 8) >:D ??? ^-^

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #351 on: May 20, 2011, 09:40:04 AM »
^^^ ...so far... ;)

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #352 on: May 20, 2011, 09:52:08 AM »
same, 2 different units (serials numbers not even close, purchased about a year apart) and no issues... 1st one was purchased the week of release from SweetWater

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #353 on: May 20, 2011, 11:12:39 AM »
^ lucky guys. god i wish this was a user malfunction, but i guess not. i think i'll buy another just to see what happens. 8) i wonder what the resale value is on m10's with bad clocks. :laugh:

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #354 on: May 20, 2011, 11:17:28 AM »
^ lucky guys. god i wish this was a user malfunction, but i guess not. i think i'll buy another just to see what happens. 8) i wonder what the resale value is on m10's with bad clocks. :laugh:
ebay it and list "as is"

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #355 on: May 20, 2011, 01:29:47 PM »
I've owned 2 units and have not had the clock issue  :D :) ::) ;) :P ;D :-X 8) >:D ??? ^-^

I think Bean haxored darby's account. :o

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #356 on: May 20, 2011, 11:16:46 PM »
I've owned 2 units and have not had the clock issue  :D :) ::) ;) :P ;D :-X 8) >:D ??? ^-^

I think Bean haxored darby's account. :o

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #357 on: June 04, 2011, 10:32:13 AM »
What is a better recorder overal the Zoom h4n or the Sony pcm m10?

I was wondering what would be a good mic for the sony?
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #358 on: June 04, 2011, 10:35:16 AM »
What is a better recorder overal the Zoom h4n or the Sony pcm m10?

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 4)
« Reply #359 on: June 04, 2011, 11:03:27 AM »
What is a better recorder overal the Zoom h4n or the Sony pcm m10?

 :banging head:

I was told to post all my new m10 questions here even though the answers will be biased.

 

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