Author Topic: SF8 vs. SF9 (Read 8334 times)

SClassical · « **on:** April 06, 2007, 02:34:46 PM »

Anyone know the difference between Sound Forge 8 vs. Sound Forge 9?

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2007, 03:04:24 PM »

Software developer web pages usually have feature by feature comparisons across versions. Have you tried Sony's SF website?

sleepypedro · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2007, 03:12:28 PM »

Quote from: Brian Skalinder on April 06, 2007, 03:04:24 PM

Software developer web pages usually have feature by feature comparisons across versions. Have you tried Sony's SF website?

i'll do you one better, brian: are you sure it exists? i see no reference to it on the sony site, nor googling for beta information. nada.

are you asking what they might have in the works for the theoretical upcoming version?

SClassical · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2007, 03:29:57 PM »

Saw this:

http://www.keenzo.com/showproduct.asp?ID=999464

blastroknow · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2007, 04:10:08 PM »

Since sony took those products over they have typically been doing releases around NAB time and NAB starts April 16 this year.

What can they actually improve on in sound forge? It is pretty much everything you need for 2 track audio work. Probably accommodate some new obscure and proprietary file formats that sony has invented.

I was personally hoping for a Vegas update {and upgrade offer} since I haven't updated since sony got it.

I upped to SF 8 from 6 whenever it was released {2 years ago?} - fantastic tool I can't live without.

KLowe · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2007, 04:35:54 PM »

the ability to multichannel is key for me ever since I got the r-4. If they also overcame the 2gb limit problem...then I may have to strongly consider buying this.

mmedley. · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2007, 09:37:46 PM »

Quote from: KLowe on April 06, 2007, 04:35:54 PM

the ability to multichannel is key for me ever since I got the r-4. If they also overcame the 2gb limit problem...then I may have to strongly consider buying this.

Sony has been able to deal with > 2GB files for some time now. Using .w64 files. Might take a gander. I thought v8 also allowed for multichannel editing too?

Edit:

Looks like if you follow the NAB link on the Sony Media Software homepage you can see the new versions. No specs that I could find yet though. Guess we'll have to wait.

blastroknow · « **Reply #7 on:** April 09, 2007, 11:29:09 AM »

I got the sony email for the official ver 9 release.

Looks like multi channel recording is included and I like that stereo phase meter, too.

Upgrade offer goes to the end of May so by then I might talk myself into getting it.

The Sound Forge 9 professional digital audio production suite includes everything you need to quickly get from raw audio to finished master. Use this suite to create and edit stereo, and now, multichannel audio files with speed and precision, expertly analyze, record and edit audio, digitize and restore old recordings, model acoustic environments, design sound for multimedia, and master replication-ready CDs.

Sound Forge 9 new features include multichannel file recording, editing and processing, phase scope metering, and Dolby® Digital AC-3 export. What makes Sound Forge 9 software a full-featured production suite? It now includes CD Architect™ 5 software, Noise Reduction 2 plug-ins, and Mastering Effects Bundle powered by iZotope™—a $700 value!

New in Sound Forge 9 software:
New! Multichannel audio recording, file editing and processing
New! Phase and mono-compatibility meters
New! Channel converter for multichannel files
New! Multichannel capable Spectrum Analysis™ tools
New! Wet/dry mix and crossfade options for effects
New! Drag-and-drop editing between channels
New! Gracenote® MusicID™ technology
New! Access to Sony Music Studios Internet Mastering
New! Dolby® Digital AC-3 export
New! Multichannel Windows Media® format support
New! Microsoft® Windows® Vista™ Compatible
And more!

OFOTD · « **Reply #8 on:** April 09, 2007, 12:36:53 PM »

Quote from: blastroknow on April 09, 2007, 11:29:09 AM

New in Sound Forge 9 software:
New! Multichannel audio recording, file editing and processing
New! Phase and mono-compatibility meters
New! Channel converter for multichannel files
New! Multichannel capable Spectrum Analysis™ tools
New! Wet/dry mix and crossfade options for effects
New! Drag-and-drop editing between channels
New! Gracenote® MusicID™ technology
New! Access to Sony Music Studios Internet Mastering
New! Dolby® Digital AC-3 export
New! Multichannel Windows Media® format support
New! Microsoft® Windows® Vista™ Compatible
And more!

Three options there that I am very much looking forward to. If I have the opportunity to dump Wavelab for a version of SF that does everything WL5 does then i'm in.

I have been trying to get into Samplitude and while I like it I am MUCH more proficient at SF8. I am sure they will have tighter integration with Vegas as well.

BayTaynt3d · « **Reply #9 on:** April 12, 2007, 12:00:17 AM »

FWIW, Sony Vegas can pretty much do everything SF can do, plus it is multitrack, non-destructive, and can do video too.

tfs8271 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2007, 12:09:18 AM »

Just downloaded SF9 trial so I'm going to play with it for 30 days.

Multitrackers! I just bought a R4 from David and I'm wonder what to do?

I would like to run a ~60% SBd and the rest mics. How should I go about this? Sorry for stupid question.

What else should I play with in multitrack mixing?

Thanks.

OFOTD · « **Reply #11 on:** April 12, 2007, 12:18:44 AM »

Quote from: tfs8271 on April 12, 2007, 12:09:18 AM

Just downloaded SF9 trial so I'm going to play with it for 30 days.

Multitrackers! I just bought a R4 from David and I'm wonder what to do?

I would like to run a ~60% SBd and the rest mics. How should I go about this? Sorry for stupid question.

What else should I play with in multitrack mixing?

Thanks.

Start with 70% SBD and work the aud in slowly until you get some ambiance.

Where did you find the SF9 trial?

tfs8271 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 12, 2007, 12:32:06 AM »

See if this works. I got it through an email.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/step2.asp?did=726

Announcing Sound Forge 9
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The Sound Forge 9 professional digital audio production suite includes everything you need to quickly get from raw audio to finished master. Use this suite to create and edit stereo, and now, multichannel audio files with speed and precision. Expertly analyze, record and edit audio, digitize and restore old recordings, model acoustic environments, design sound for multimedia, and master replication-ready CDs.

Sound Forge 9 new features include multichannel file recording, editing and processing, phase scope metering, and Dolby® Digital AC-3 export. What makes Sound Forge 9 software a full-featured production suite? It now includes CD Architect™ 5 software, Noise Reduction 2 plug-ins, and Mastering Effects Bundle powered by iZotope™—a $700 value!

New in Sound Forge 9 software:
New! Multichannel audio recording, file editing and processing
New! Phase and mono-compatibility meters
New! Channel converter for multichannel files
New! Multichannel capable Spectrum Analysis™ tools
New! Wet/dry mix and crossfade options for effects
New! Drag-and-drop editing between channels
New! Gracenote® MusicID™ technology
New! Access to Sony Music Studios Internet Mastering
New! Dolby® Digital AC-3 export
New! Multichannel Windows Media® format support
New! Microsoft® Windows® Vista™ Compatible
And more!
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dgodwin · « **Reply #13 on:** April 13, 2007, 06:43:16 PM »

+t for the soundforge trial. I'm looking for something I can merge my 2x stereo 24/96 files, and mixdown and still have 24/96 (audition doesn't.. at least v. 1.5)

SClassical · « **Reply #14 on:** April 19, 2007, 09:09:02 PM »

This is really a SF8 question...

Anyone know how I can generate a single long tone/note from SF8 with constant volume? I understand a lot of audio programs can do this. But I do not know how to do it in SF8. I want to use the tone/note generated to check my preamp vol meters, that is why it has to be constant volume.

Thanks for your help!

OFOTD · « **Reply #15 on:** April 19, 2007, 09:24:59 PM »

Quote from: scyue on April 19, 2007, 09:09:02 PM

This is really a SF8 question...

Anyone know how I can generate a single long tone/note from SF8 with constant volume? I understand a lot of audio programs can do this. But I do not know how to do it in SF8. I want to use the tone/note generated to check my preamp vol meters, that is why it has to be constant volume.

Thanks for your help!

Tools > Synthesis > Simple

Pick a tone. Set the length. Voila!

SClassical · « **Reply #16 on:** May 01, 2007, 05:44:22 PM »

Another SF8 question...

Anyone know if there is an option to reverse the channels (making the right channel left and the left channel right)? I was thinking of coping and pasting the left wave to the right channel in a new file and pasting the right channel to the left. Is this what most people do or there is an option in SF8 for this sort of thing?

OFOTD · « **Reply #17 on:** May 01, 2007, 06:00:21 PM »

Quote from: scyue on May 01, 2007, 05:44:22 PM

Another SF8 question...

Anyone know if there is an option to reverse the channels (making the right channel left and the left channel right)? I was thinking of coping and pasting the left wave to the right channel in a new file and pasting the right channel to the left. Is this what most people do or there is an option in SF8 for this sort of thing?

I'm confused a little. Is there something you're going for by swapping channels?

The quickest way I know to do that is to select all of the right channel. Copy. Create a new stereo file and paste the former right channel onto the new left and vice versa for the other channel.

SClassical · « **Reply #18 on:** May 01, 2007, 06:07:13 PM »

Thanks...

The reason I wanted to do it is because something strange happened during a recording session...my channels were reversed by my recorder (my preamp and mics were set correctly), just my recorder had some fault that night.

SClassical · « **Reply #19 on:** May 01, 2007, 06:19:21 PM »

Actually, when I did the copy and paste thing this happened....(check picture)

I cannot remove the empty area. Seems as if you cannot copy and paste and have both channels line up...looks as if I need to find a reverse channel option... I did a search in the HELP option but nothing came out of my HELP search...Is there a name for what I need to do so I can do a proper search?

SClassical · « **Reply #20 on:** May 01, 2007, 06:32:01 PM »

YES found how to do it from channel converter option! Thanks

tfs8271 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 01, 2007, 07:52:36 PM »

You can accomplish the same thing by listening to the recording standing on your head.

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #22 on:** May 01, 2007, 07:58:21 PM »

Quote from: dgodwin on April 13, 2007, 06:43:16 PM

+t for the soundforge trial. I'm looking for something I can merge my 2x stereo 24/96 files, and mixdown and still have 24/96 (audition doesn't.. at least v. 1.5)

True, Audition's mixdown options are 16-bit or 32bfp, no option for 24-bit. Why not take advantage of the higher internal resolution (32bfp) when mixing multiple sources? And does SF mixdown at 24-bit internal resolution, or does it mixdown at 32bfp resolution and dither down to 24-bit as part of its processing?

BayTaynt3d · « **Reply #23 on:** May 01, 2007, 09:33:14 PM »

Quote from: scyue on May 01, 2007, 05:44:22 PM

Another SF8 question...

Anyone know if there is an option to reverse the channels (making the right channel left and the left channel right)? I was thinking of coping and pasting the left wave to the right channel in a new file and pasting the right channel to the left. Is this what most people do or there is an option in SF8 for this sort of thing?

For the record, in Vegas it's as simple as right-click > channels > swap. Done (and in a non-destructive way too, which is nice). Anyway, some folks who have SF also have Vegas as part of the Sony Suite, if so, it's worth a look, even for simple two-track stuff. After using both a lot, I don't find SF necessary nearly ever anymore b/c I can use all of the same plugins SF can use and I have multitrack available (and video can even be dropped in no problem).

sleepypedro · « **Reply #24 on:** May 01, 2007, 09:49:40 PM »

Quote from: scyue on May 01, 2007, 06:32:01 PM

YES found how to do it from channel converter option! Thanks

as always, many ways to skin the cat.

when i need to do this, i always select one channel, open a new file with same properties, then paste the right channel into the left channel of the new file, and then vice versa.

now that i run an LSD2 in an inverted fashion, i suspect i'll need to do this more often!

SClassical · « **Reply #25 on:** May 01, 2007, 10:39:30 PM »

Anyone know how to set the % on the left and right? The Peak seems to change when I swap channels...I think it is something to do with the % settings.

SClassical · « **Reply #26 on:** May 01, 2007, 11:19:59 PM »

Actually, I think I know what to do now...

Going back to the copy and paste thing...I need to paste the L channel OVER an existing stereo file on the high-lighted R channel and vice versa.