Topic: Any recorders that can index on the fly and make a cue file?

[runonce]

Im becoming very lazy about post these days...even though generally all it takes is CDwave tracking...

Kinda wish for a recorder that would let me index on the fly - and save the tracking as a .cue file.

Then I'd just open the master wav in CDwave...open the cue...adjust if necessary...and save.

Not a huge time saver...but wouldnt hurt.

Do any of the newer recorders support something like this?

[mr qpl]

d50 sets tracks

[runonce]

d50 sets tracks

Thanks - that looks like it divides tracks on the fly...that actually might cause more problems than it solves.

Im really looking for something that just makes a .cue file...rather than actually tracking.

[Brian Skalinder]

I have a vague recollection that the HD-P2 and/or 722 will set track markers within a single WAV.  Your editing software may or may not recognize the track markers.  Dunno about CD-Wave.  Mine did, if I recall (either Audition or Samplitude SE).  Sorry I can't be more definitive...it's only a foggy memory at this point, as I never really used the feature.

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I have a vague recollection that the HD-P2 and/or 722 will set track markers within a single WAV.  Your editing software may or may not recognize the track markers.  Dunno about CD-Wave.  Mine did, if I recall (either Audition or Samplitude SE).  Sorry I can't be more definitive...it's only a foggy memory at this point, as I never really used the feature.

The 7xx series will do markers in the metadata layer. Finding something to read that stuff is beyond my experience though. Pages 10/12, 31, and 62 in the 722 manual.

[digifish_music]

Edirol R44 allows you to set index points in the wav file as you go. Press the 'Mark' button (10)



digifish

[dogmusic]

The Sony M10 has a Track Mark (T-MARK) button which will mark a spot without dividing the track.

[Gutbucket]

As digifish mentions, the R44 like other recorders listed here, creates markers within the file metadata -this funtion was supposedly fixed with the last firmware update (before that most software wasn't recognizing the markers) but I have not used it.  The other way is recorders that seamlessly split the file and start a new one like the R-09 and others.

I don't know of any that write a seperate cue file.  What I'd really like a cue file that lists any gain changes made during the recording as well as general time markers.

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As digifish mentions, the R44 like other recorders listed here, creates markers within the file metadata -this funtion was supposedly fixed with the last firmware update (before that most software wasn't recognizing the markers) but I have not used it.  The other way is recorders that seamlessly split the file and start a new one like the R-09 and others.

I don't know of any that write a seperate cue file.  What I'd really like a cue file that lists any gain changes made during the recording as well as general time markers.

you might be able to export the markers once you load the file into an editor, but other then that, I agree that I can't think of one that writes a separate file.

[batchain]

You can set cue points on the FR2-LE.

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

While its not exactly marking tracks within a single WAV, you may be able to hit FF (if you can make new track without any loss) and make your tracks that way. 

Once, when I was taping Ween, I was getting close to the 2hr. limit on the JB3.  Rather than have it cut over to the new track in the middle of a song, I hit FF and started a new track for that last few songs.  Basically, I made a CD cut.  Later when I used CDWave, I kept that particular cut, since it was at the end of the encore break...

The JB3 didn't mark tracks, but you could hit FF at any point and pretty much do the same thing...  I don't own the JB3 anymore, I use an HDP2 now, but I bet you could do something similar with almost any deck.

Terry

[runonce]

You can set cue points on the FR2-LE.

Does a program like CDwave recognize these?

[Giant_Rick]

Just a related question: can doing 'track mark' on a minidisc recorder create some SBE errors?

[runonce]

Thanks for the responses. Just to be clear - I dont want to TRACK on the fly...that would make things even harder IMO.

I just want to add makers (or whatever they might be called) - like the old Sony DAT machines...quickly press the record button and it would add a marker.

I still want the show/set as one big wav.

Im happy with any method...be it metadata or whatever. As long as you end up with markers when you open it in CDwave. I just mentioned a "cue" sheet as an example.

I figure, if I can set most of the markers right on the fly - the few that might get by (like a segue) can be fixed with minimal effort(once open in CDwave). And thus save some time in post.

If anyone has the time to experiment with their R44 or FR2LE - I would appreciate it. Those sound promising...

Thanks!

[darby]

the problem with indexing on the fly is the placement of the markers
if you are doing 44.1 to burn as CDs then they may not be on Sector Boundaries

just like the old days of burning CDs directly off DAT with a standalone CD recorder