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Title: Toshiba 3960 help
Post by: BCostigan on February 21, 2005, 11:03:28 AM

This is probably a silly question but..........I have been told the 3960 upsamples redbook to 24/192.  Does this include cdr's as well?  I'm guessing not.  Also.......to take advantage of the upsampling I assume it's best to connect the 3960 to my reciever via rca cables instead of digi coax?

Anyone know how the 3960's upsampling compares to the BelCanto DAC 2.0 (Tim?)?  I assume the BelCanto blows it out of the water.

Lastly.....I really want to try some 24/192 and I don't think the 3960 will play any DVD audio any recomendations?

Thanks in advance for any help!  :D

:edit:  anyone know how the Panasonic DVD f87 does? 

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/vModelDetail?displayTab=O&storeId=11251&catalogId=11005&itemId=69528&catGroupId=11059&modelNo=DVD-F87K&surfModel=DVD-F87K

Title: Re: Toshiba 3960 help
Post by: Daryan on February 21, 2005, 11:36:35 AM

Toshiba 4960

Title: Re: Toshiba 3960 help
Post by: Nick's Picks on February 23, 2005, 08:38:04 AM

Quote from: BCostigan on February 21, 2005, 11:03:28 AM

This is probably a silly question but..........I have been told the 3960 upsamples redbook to 24/192.  Does this include cdr's as well?  I'm guessing not.  Also.......to take advantage of the upsampling I assume it's best to connect the 3960 to my reciever via rca cables instead of digi coax?

correct.
the 3960 does not pass an upsampled signal via coax.  only analog.

Quote from: BCostigan on February 21, 2005, 11:03:28 AM

Anyone know how the 3960's upsampling compares to the BelCanto DAC 2.0 (Tim?)?  I assume the BelCanto blows it out of the water.

Hmmmm....
you'd think so.
however...try to A/B it.  you might be surprised.  It is that good.  I bet a heavily modified one would rival, or best the bel canto.  And by heavily modified, i'm talking about sinking maybe $400 into it.
IMO, to get the best out of what you have, get yourself a big ben or DIP (the DIP is MUCH cheaper, and sounds great...even next to the Apogee) and then pass a nice, stable jitter free signal to the BC.  then you'll be cooking with butter!
I sent my DIP to Doug Oade...he just posted his thoughts on his board.  check it out.
ebay is a good source for these.  they go VERY fast on agon.

Title: Re: Toshiba 3960 help
Post by: Tim on February 23, 2005, 04:00:35 PM

I a/b the Bel Canto and the analog out of the toshiba every day... it's not really close but we're talking about a $60 cd player and a $1200 (new, $800 used) dac. the toshiba sounds pretty good for the money, certainly better than any other lowend dvd/cd players I've used (a few sony models).

The Bel Canto's high end is much more subdued, cymbals lose that high end sizzle. The bass on the bel canto is more defined and the soundstage is a touch wider and the imaging is noticeably tighter.

the toshiba has nothing to be ashamed of though, when I switch over to the straight toshiba I can still enjoy the music.

I've never really listened to highend analog but I would say that the toshiba sounds like good digital whereas the Bel Canto DAC 2 sounds much more analog and musical.

Title: Re: Toshiba 3960 help
Post by: BCostigan on February 23, 2005, 05:27:21 PM

Thanks guys....I was hoping you two would chime in (nick & Tim).  :)

Title: Re: Toshiba 3960 help
Post by: Tim on February 23, 2005, 05:52:15 PM

once in awhile I say something useful, you have to be looking for it though or it will pass you right by

glad to be of service Mr. Costigan

Title: Re: Toshiba 3960 help
Post by: BCostigan on February 23, 2005, 09:08:11 PM

Quote from: Tim on February 23, 2005, 05:52:15 PM

once in awhile I say something useful, you have to be looking for it though or it will pass you right by

QFT  ;)