Topic: Quick Ua5 question

[KLowe]

Dude,
Who are you Gonna Matrix this weekend?  Just curious.

Also....for the rest of the tapers.  And this might be a stupid question but......would a really long RCA cable from the board make up for the delay when the mics are out 25' or so from the stage?  Or is the speed of sound -vs- speed of electrical impulses from the board issue never solvable....unless your RCA cords are like a mile long?

Does that question make any sense?

Thanks for the help

[admkrk]

Dude,
Who are you Gonna Matrix this weekend?  Just curious.

Also....for the rest of the tapers.  And this might be a stupid question but......would a really long RCA cable from the board make up for the delay when the mics are out 25' or so from the stage?  Or is the speed of sound -vs- speed of electrical impulses from the board issue never solvable....unless your RCA cords are like a mile long?

Does that question make any sense?

Thanks for the help

sorta makes sence.   the cable run should make no diference. not sure about the mile run though      the delay is from the time the sound hits the mics. the sbd picks up the stage mics(base sound). by the time it's traveled to your aud mics, there will be a delay. just like there is a delay between when sound hit one of your ears to the other one. just ask anyone running binaurals. that delay is what's used to make 5.1 sound. 

[leegeddy]

So I have been trying to organize my setup in the gear bag all nice, nice.

To the people that runa UA5 with the Walmart battery (everyone?) :

Would there be a problem with me velcroing the battery to the top of the ua5?  I have a sonicase & run the ua5 vertically, so having the battery velcored to the top would be gravy.  Does anyone else do this?  I was mainly concerned with heat issues......

Does anyone see a problem with this??

we ran a v3 and a m1 via VRBox powered by a 9v lithium Walmart for about 3hrs. the batt was fully charged and at the end of the show, 50% remained (according to the LED).  v3 draws ~0.75 - 1amp and m1 draws ~0.3amp. so total draw was ~1.3amp at the most. 

verdict... the battery was only slightly warm to the touch so i would say that heat dissipation would not be a problem under normal conditions. 

marc

[Scooter]

i've run UA5 + wally batt that way, no probs.

[NJFunk]

Dude,
Who are you Gonna Matrix this weekend?  Just curious.

Also....for the rest of the tapers.  And this might be a stupid question but......would a really long RCA cable from the board make up for the delay when the mics are out 25' or so from the stage?  Or is the speed of sound -vs- speed of electrical impulses from the board issue never solvable....unless your RCA cords are like a mile long?

Does that question make any sense?

Thanks for the help

The speed of light is 186,000 mi/sec or about 1 billion ft/sec.  The speed of sound is about 770 mi/HR or about 1000 ft/sec.  To make up the delay by running the SBD feed through cable, you'd need a cable approximately 1 b / 1,000 = 1 million feet long for every foot away from the stage you're mics are.  For a distance of 30 feet, that's a cable approximately 6,000 miles long.  Good luck.

[Scooter]

jeez, lighten up

[bhtoque]

Dude,
Who are you Gonna Matrix this weekend?  Just curious.

Also....for the rest of the tapers.  And this might be a stupid question but......would a really long RCA cable from the board make up for the delay when the mics are out 25' or so from the stage?  Or is the speed of sound -vs- speed of electrical impulses from the board issue never solvable....unless your RCA cords are like a mile long?

Does that question make any sense?

Thanks for the help

The speed of light is 186,000 mi/sec or about 1 billion ft/sec.  The speed of sound is about 770 mi/HR or about 1000 ft/sec.  To make up the delay by running the SBD feed through cable, you'd need a cable approximately 1 b / 1,000 = 1 million feet long for every foot away from the stage you're mics are.  For a distance of 30 feet, that's a cable approximately 6,000 miles long.  Good luck.

The way it would help is to run away from the sbd. I've done it with a 12ft rca so I could be 12ft closer to the stage, so there would be less delay.

So it looked like:

stage----->mics------>ua-5------>sbd

If I had run everything back at the sbd, the delay would have ruined it, but this gave me a great sound and only a minor set up/break down cluster fuck. I must have used 50ft of gaffer's tape.

JAson

[NJFunk]

jeez, lighten up

Sorry, that was just meant to be a little late night math humor.  No offense intended, I just think smilies are a little fruity.

[leegeddy]

jeez, lighten up

LOL!!!

+t for a good one.

marc

[suspect]

So with the UA-5 is it possible to run SBD > UA5 (rca) & mics >UA5 (XLR) > laptop (Soundforge) via USB if the UA5 is stock?  If so, does Soundforge see this as 2 tracks or 4?  If 4 is the case, I will have to use something other than Soundforge, yes?  I'm thinking the only matrix I would do is a post-prod matrix using mics > UA5 > lappy and sbd > AD20 > iPAQ 3955 via PDAudio CF card.  I'm guessing that since the UA5 is un-modded, the post-prod matrix will be all I can do, yes?

[NJFunk]

So with the UA-5 is it possible to run SBD > UA5 (rca) & mics >UA5 (XLR) > laptop (Soundforge) via USB if the UA5 is stock?  If so, does Soundforge see this as 2 tracks or 4?  If 4 is the case, I will have to use something other than Soundforge, yes?  I'm thinking the only matrix I would do is a post-prod matrix using mics > UA5 > lappy and sbd > AD20 > iPAQ 3955 via PDAudio CF card.  I'm guessing that since the UA5 is un-modded, the post-prod matrix will be all I can do, yes?

I believe that you can do the matrix "on the fly" with an unmodded UA-5, but it will only output 2 tracks not 4, even through USB.  Therefore, you can do the mix, but the question is whether you'll have issues with the delay in the aud portion.  If you can set up the mics within 20-25 feet of the stage, you should be OK.