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Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« on: June 13, 2007, 11:46:41 PM »
I am looking for a mount for the CA cardoid mics to be used open situations.

Is this what I need?

SOUND PROFESSIONALS - PREMIUM T MOUNT FOR ALL MINI MICROPHONES.
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-GNA-3

Whats a good span length  - 12inches?

Are there other already made options?
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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2007, 01:27:02 AM »
I think I'd go for the 24" and add the shockmount.
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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2007, 04:10:28 AM »
How do they mount to the mics?

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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2007, 02:12:18 PM »
I use this & it is the 12in version. The 24 would be to long IMO. It would be to hard to get the mics DIN/ortf ect ect......

Keyd, The mics slip into the windscreens.
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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2007, 07:14:07 PM »
I use this & it is the 12in version. The 24 would be to long IMO. It would be to hard to get the mics DIN/ortf ect ect......

Keyd, The mics slip into the windscreens.

Thanks for all the info. That is easy. I didn't realize the wind screens came with it. Too easy I missed it.

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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2007, 08:13:35 PM »
I use this & it is the 12in version. The 24 would be to long IMO. It would be to hard to get the mics DIN/ortf ect ect......

Keyd, The mics slip into the windscreens.

SP will cut this mount to any length you desire.  (Naturally you will pay for the extra length they cut.)  I got a 24" cut to 17" for a specific application.  It works great.  So they'll cut down the 12" to 7.9" (DIN) or 6.7" "ORTF" if you want.

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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2007, 08:07:03 AM »
so the SP Tbar works for the CA mics?
I have this bar already and used it with my cmc2a's.
just ordered some CA mics and was thinking i was going to need something else.



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Re: Mount for Camcorder?
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2007, 05:46:11 PM »
Does this mount come with the adapter for attaching to my camcorder accessory shoe, as shown in this picture?:
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/images/gold/full/SP-GNA-4.jpg


Also, I'm still a little confused how I'll get my Church Audio mics in this thing.  You just slide them into the holes in the windscreens? Is there a clamp that tightens?
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/images/gold/full/SP-GNA-3-F.jpg

One more thing. . .how badly will I miss the shock mount if I don't order it?

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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2007, 04:12:21 PM »
I'm working on a DIN mount made from PVC if anyone is interested.  I'm making a couple extras just in case.  I built 3 this afternoon and painted them black.  They are drying now.  I'll post pics if anyone is interested.  It's basically a short piece of 1/2" PVC with a 45 degree slip on each side and a 1 1/2" pice of the same PVC protruding.  I drilled holes in the back where the mics slip through.  Then if I put the windscreens on and tuck them inside the pipe a bit and drape the wires so there's a small amount of tension the mics sit in place perfectly.  I also drilled a hole in the middle on the main bar and put a 3/8" bolt through that can be used with an adapter or like I'll do put inside a clamp that has a removable piece.

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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2007, 08:59:51 PM »
good, good stantheman, very interesting, wish good succes for your build!
Yes please do post pics of your mounts!
( just abt, tobuild my own )

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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2007, 10:24:40 PM »
Here's what I came up with.  The mics slip in through the holes in the back and with the windscreens on they fit in just right and stay secure.  It's pretty obvious I went for function, not beauty.  I plan to leave the screw and get a nut to secure it.  I bough some nuts, but they were fine thread and won't work.  The capsules might actually end up being about 18cm apart so whether they are true 100% DIN configuration is up to personal opinion.  1cm isn't going to make a huge sonic difference so I'm not that concerned.  I did build a couple extra if anyone is interested.

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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2007, 01:34:50 AM »
Niiiiice man!  I thought you said you weren't good at measuring and cuttin and stuff?  ;)

Anyhow man good job! +T

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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2007, 01:43:03 AM »
Hey stan, does it matter how far apart the mics are? How far apart are yours. Nice mount! rWc3523
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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2007, 03:31:12 AM »
http://www.dpamicrophones.com/

they have a section called microphone university which discussed various stereo recording techniques.  spacing does matter.

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Re: Mount for Church Audio Cardoids
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2007, 08:56:40 AM »
Spacing supposedly does matter a good deal, but be very truthful in this answer: Is ANYONE going to notice if a pair of mics were spaced 18cm apart instead of 20cm?  No.  I cut these having DIN and DIN-A mixed in my head.  I was measuring for 17cm thinking it was DIN.  When all is said and done the mics end up 18cm apart measuring from the middle of each capsule, 17cm from inside to inside.  So in reality these are DIN-A bars.  I personally thing a fussing over a couple centimeters is splitting hairs.  I made these so they'd look half decent and hold my mics in the same configuration every time.   

 

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