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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2007, 04:43:59 PM »
another good option would be the Audix m1290-hc.  Audix makes cardiod, hypers, and omni caps for the m1290's.  very small mics, real nice sound, and not too pricy.

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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2007, 04:46:00 PM »
Awesome -- I'm downloading the AKG shootout and CK1b samples now!

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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2007, 07:58:02 PM »
Yeah, I emailed Chris about this, but haven't heard back yet. I just bought a Busman PMD660, so it would be cool to have a 100% Busman setup. :)

I have not heard from him since before the Holiday either... I am sure he is very busy right now trying to get the mics ready... plus a baby... plus a Holiday... I am sure we will hear from him soon.

How do you think modified CK1's stack up against a 463/483 setup?

beyond the scope of my experience... never recorded with those mics.

There should be plenty of samples with AKG's on the LMA

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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2007, 07:59:12 PM »
I own both the AKG 483's and the MBHO KA500 HN's and I LOVE them both. I will never sell either capsule pair :) They both sound amazing in front of my 722.
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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2007, 08:27:54 PM »
Okay... Here are my thoughts after doing some listening...

The stock 460 seems to have a "thicker," more bass-heavy sound than the JW460 or 480. I think it could be better for when you need to punch something up, but the vocals don't have quite the same crispness as the others.

The JW460 sounds extreeeemely close to the 480. Maybe I've been to too many noise shows, but it's a tossup to these ears. They're both very clear and "present" sounding.

The Busman CK-1 is the obvious winner over the CK40 to me... The CK40's bass is out of control, and the vocals sound slightly muffled. In contrast, the CK-1b's vocals and mids are clean and detailed -- it sounds like I'm closer to the band...

Now I wish I could hear a CK-1b vs 483/463JW comparison ;)

I thought I read somewhere that the 480 is transformerless while the 460 is not? Is that the case?

I own both the AKG 483's and the MBHO KA500 HN's and I LOVE them both. I will never sell either capsule pair :) They both sound amazing in front of my 722.

Bean, how would you characterize the difference between the two?

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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2007, 08:31:59 PM »
I am sure he is very busy right now trying to get the mics ready... plus a baby... plus a Holiday...

Ha, that'll do it. :)

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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2007, 08:33:41 PM »
Bean, how would you characterize the difference between the two?

I'm guessing with lots of emote icons.


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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2007, 08:39:48 PM »
Here is another CK-1 w/ hyper sample... this is before they were modded.

http://www.archive.org/details/cj2007-06-10.avantone_ck1
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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2007, 09:05:59 PM »
The pre-mod CK-1s sound pretty good as well... maybe a higher noise floor? Or is that noise coming from the stage?

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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2007, 07:19:44 AM »
The pre-mod CK-1s sound pretty good as well... maybe a higher noise floor? Or is that noise coming from the stage?

The show was recorded a little low. I was not prepared for a show where the applause is the loudest part of the show. So it is a ombination of R-4+mics noise after the levels are normalized.
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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2007, 08:55:34 AM »
I thought I read somewhere that the 480 is transformerless while the 460 is not? Is that the case?
that is correct, and I believe the jwmod removes the transformer from the 460, which may have a lot to do with why you think they sound so similar.

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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2007, 09:55:11 AM »
I really liked running the AKG 393s when I had them.  Very nice microphone and you could probably find a pair for under $500.  Interchangeable caps as well, so you can run multiple patterns and such.
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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2007, 07:59:17 PM »
I've read a million posts, I've listened to a million samples, now I just can't wait to hear more about the Busman mics. :)

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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2007, 10:53:28 PM »
I'll pimp twatts yardsale too. 

The ADKs are heavy, but you get a lot of bang for the buck with 4 patterns.  I'm thinking about getting new mics but I like the ADKs and plan on hanging onto them.

Here's a show I recorded last month using the hypers pattern if you wanna listen:

http://www.archive.org/details/rd2007-11-08.adkA51TL.flac
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Re: Hyper suggestions?
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2007, 01:22:36 PM »
I'll pimp twatts yardsale too. 

The ADKs are heavy, but you get a lot of bang for the buck with 4 patterns.  I'm thinking about getting new mics but I like the ADKs and plan on hanging onto them.

Here's a show I recorded last month using the hypers pattern if you wanna listen:

http://www.archive.org/details/rd2007-11-08.adkA51TL.flac
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