Topic: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 2)

[vwmule]

Brought the DR-70D to Tedeschi Trucks Band on 4/18 in Arrington, Va. Fun little device. Ran LSD2 straight in and it sounds nice.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=579381

[yug du nord]

^I know you didn't comp them...  but is it anywhere near a 744 killer?

[leehookem]

https://archive.org/details/um2015-04-18.flac16

Here's my rain shortened recording from Saturday.  This unit is a fucking keeper.  Love it.

[gormenghast]

https://archive.org/details/um2015-04-18.flac16

Here's my rain shortened recording from Saturday.  This unit is a fucking keeper.  Love it.

Nice.  Just what I was wondering about running PFAs directly into the 70d.

Thanks!

[ts]

So all of us with an FP24, have we decided that running line out of FP24 to 60/70d is a no go? Tape out is the only way to avoid overload? I guess I'll have to leave the FP24 home when running a SBD patch since I'll be using the 1/8 input on line 1/2 of 70d for the SBD and I'll run mics directly into 3/4 on the 70d. Or carry even more cables for SBD patching. Jon from Naiant mentions some possible solutions for a poster here but the poster does not specify if he was using tape out or line out: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=171991.30

I have run AKG>Naiant Actives>FP24(tape out)>M10 many times with no problems. The one time I ran FP24 line out>xlr in on the 60d was a disaster. I'm guessing the same thing will happen with the 70d.

[jbell]

Cheesecadet is running that combo!  I think you need to calibrate the 2 devices for them to work properly.

[ts]

Cheesecadet is running that combo!  I think you need to calibrate the 2 devices for them to work properly.

I re read all of part one with Cheeses issues with the Fp24. Unless I'm reading it wrong he still had the same problem after calibrating. It's like someone is banging on your mic stand with a stick, but what it really is is the snare. I think the Fp24 line out is just to hot for the 60/70d.

[PH]

A quick google search on the FP24 maximum output level found me this:

From the FP24 user manual:
http://cdn.shure.com/user_guide/upload/860/us_pro_fp24_ug.pdf

Output Clipping Level:
Line: +22 dBu minimum with 100k ohm load
+20 dBu minimum with 600 ohm load
Tape: +11 dBu (2.75 V RMS) minimum with 100k ohm load


The 70D states that it can only take a maximum of +20 dBu via Line In
(unsure of if that's true for both the External Stereo 1/2 inputs and the XLR/TRS 1/2 inputs)

No idea why you would be getting volume spikes between the two.

[voltronic]

Cheesecadet is running that combo!  I think you need to calibrate the 2 devices for them to work properly.

I re read all of part one with Cheeses issues with the Fp24. Unless I'm reading it wrong he still had the same problem after calibrating. It's like someone is banging on your mic stand with a stick, but what it really is is the snare. I think the Fp24 line out is just to hot for the 60/70d.

That was my impression also.  I own the exact same gear but haven't had a chance to test them together yet - I'll try to get around to it when I get the chance.  As I said somewhere much earlier in this thread, I was advised against using the XLR line out of the FP24 into the line in of the Sony PCM-M10, which can handle a fairly hot level but not that of the FP24.

[F.O.Bean]

OK, been checking out external batteries for the 70D, and looks like I'm going with the RavPower Element 10,400mah!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009V5X1CE?ie=UTF8&ref_=de_a_smtd&showDetailTechData=1#technical-data

Just one question(yes I'm serious ) but how do you charge it? With just another USB like my computer? Or an adapter that I have that can plug USB cables into the wall? Or does it come with an AC adapter? Because there's no mention of one in the sales page for it! I've never owned a USB battery before, and I honestly have no clue how to charge the RavPower batteries But I'm guessing its just another USB port like my computer or the adapter I just mentioned!

Thanks,
Bean

FYI it takes 12+ hrs to charge so plan ahead
I use an iphone wall plug and the charge cables comes with it I believe

Thanks! I wasn't aware of that!

What's pretty cool is that this battery charges through a microUSB jack in between the two full-size USB jacks.  The 70D uses a microUSB connector also, so you only ever need to carry one cable to charge the battery and then turn it around and power the 70D. 

The included cables have snap-on removable connectors for different types of connections.  I got a 1ft version of this though, which I really like since it stays out of the way of other cables connected to the unit:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003YKX6WC/ref=twister_B0089W5Q1O?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I have a left angle micro USB>rt angle USB A cable I got on eBay for $1.20 that still fits with a rt angle stubby plugged into channel 4. Great little cable thats only 1' long as well! Finally got my 70D today[Monday] and have all of the settings the way I want them. I'm running runtimes with just alkaline AAs going mk4>NBob KCY>Naiant PFA>70D on 1/2 and mk41>vms02ib>70D on 3/4. Also running vms02ib>m10 as a backup right now. My first impressions are that its a nicely built, sturdy little unit. I LOVE it so far. Now hopefully its as reliable as the m10, and we'd have a real winner here! And for $200, its a no brainer

Gormeghast, I'll be running mk4>KCY>PFA>70D the next show I tape, so that we can hear some Schoeps with the 70D preamps for the first time, since I don't know anyone who has run Schoeps straight in yet Unfortunately, I don't know when my next show will be. Hopefully this Saturday

[F.O.Bean]

And I have a question. What does auto power save do? It came on the highest setting, 30 minutes, as default but I don't know what it is and turned it OFF!

And are yinz keeping the backlight ON? If not, what setting? I'm thinking of keeping mine on always, unless it sucks a lot of power. Maybe 30 seconds instead of always?

TIA,
Bean

[voltronic]

And I have a question. What does auto power save do? It came on the highest setting, 30 minutes, as default but I don't know what it is and turned it OFF!

And are yinz keeping the backlight ON? If not, what setting? I'm thinking of keeping mine on always, unless it sucks a lot of power. Maybe 30 seconds instead of always?

TIA,
Bean

I haven't had it engage yet, but I'm pretty sure it powers down the the unit after a period of inactivity - in your case, 30 minutes.

The backlight timeout setting will be overridden when powering the 70D off an external battery - it will stay constant on.  Actually, I had it set to timeout after a time when running of internal batteries, then I did some recording with the external battery, and then I went back into the settings with the external battery removed and found that the setting had been reset to Always On.  Not sure if this is a weird thing mine did or if anyone else can verify this behavior.

In any case, if you're running external power I think the screen is drawing a very tiny amount of power in the grand scheme of things.  I'd only worry about it if you're using internal batteries, and even then it might not matter much.

[ts]

Cheesecadet is running that combo!  I think you need to calibrate the 2 devices for them to work properly.

I re read all of part one with Cheeses issues with the Fp24. Unless I'm reading it wrong he still had the same problem after calibrating. It's like someone is banging on your mic stand with a stick, but what it really is is the snare. I think the Fp24 line out is just to hot for the 60/70d.

That was my impression also.  I own the exact same gear but haven't had a chance to test them together yet - I'll try to get around to it when I get the chance.  As I said somewhere much earlier in this thread, I was advised against using the XLR line out of the FP24 into the line in of the Sony PCM-M10, which can handle a fairly hot level but not that of the FP24.

I'm guessing the easiest solution would be to run 1/8 in. on the FP24 tape out to XLR in on channels 3/4, leaving the 70d 1/8 in. input on line 1/2 open for board patches. Not really trusting the calibration method. If the line output on the FP24 is to hot for the 70d, how does calibrating lower it? I guess that's were I'm confused.

[voltronic]

Cheesecadet is running that combo!  I think you need to calibrate the 2 devices for them to work properly.

I re read all of part one with Cheeses issues with the Fp24. Unless I'm reading it wrong he still had the same problem after calibrating. It's like someone is banging on your mic stand with a stick, but what it really is is the snare. I think the Fp24 line out is just to hot for the 60/70d.

That was my impression also.  I own the exact same gear but haven't had a chance to test them together yet - I'll try to get around to it when I get the chance.  As I said somewhere much earlier in this thread, I was advised against using the XLR line out of the FP24 into the line in of the Sony PCM-M10, which can handle a fairly hot level but not that of the FP24.

I'm guessing the easiest solution would be to run 1/8 in. on the FP24 tape out to XLR in on channels 3/4, leaving the 70d 1/8 in. input on line 1/2 open for board patches. Not really trusting the calibration method. If the line output on the FP24 is to hot for the 70d, how does calibrating lower it? I guess that's were I'm confused.

You can't adjust the output level of the FP24.  You turn on the slate tone and adjust the input on the 70D or whatever recorder you're using to read -20 on that recorder.

The voltage level on the FP24 line out (XLR) is much hotter than the tape out, which is intended for connection to cameras and other devices with 1/8" inputs.

[morst]

I joined the club today. Hi folks!