Topic: EDIROL R-44 (PART IV)

[kirk97132]

Just thought I'd tie in the clock discussion on the Team R-44 thread in case y'all don't check that:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,119049.90.html

[yltfan]

Anyone else ever get "Skipping unknown sub-chunk" errors when FLACing R-44 files? (larger 24/48 files if it matters) The files seem fine, and I know this has something to do with the wave header, but I'd like to be able to convert these, would love any advice.

[cybergaloot]

Just a guess but are you recording to the BCW format rather than just Wav? Maybe the flac formatting programs doesn't understand the extra information in the BCW format and is ignoring it.

[yltfan]

Just a guess but are you recording to the BCW format rather than just Wav? Maybe the flac formatting programs doesn't understand the extra information in the BCW format and is ignoring it.

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Thanks!

[Kindguy]

My errors have only been w/Transend cards, and only affecting channels 1&2 when doing a stereo x 2 setting.

I use

8g Transend
16g Transend
8g kingston
16g kingston
8g SanDisk ultra 2

I've used them in all (well most) situations possible without a hitch.

[kirk97132]

Just thought I'd tie in the clock discussion on the Team R-44 thread in case y'all don't check that:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,119049.90.html

Word is in from Edirol: The sync cable DOES NOT lock the clocks on different machines.  In depth discussion in Team R-44

[yltfan]

Anyone around here run km140s straight into a stock R-44? How's that work out for ya?

[dmonkey]

Anyone around here run km140s straight into a stock R-44? How's that work out for ya?

I don't have a stock R-44, mine is an Oade mod, but I'm pleased with the sound of the 140s directly in. Although lately I've started running thru an Aerco then to the R-44, and that fattens things up a bit. But the sound straight into the R-44 is pretty damned good.

[yltfan]

I think I'm going to have go against the CW on the r-44 level adjusting. Unless I can hear something bad, I'm switching back to using the outer (clicky knob) for rough adjustments before the music starts, and spinning the inner (smooth) knob for on-the-fly. Those 6db jumps are just too rough, and the dropouts too noticeable.

I know the recommendation is to leave the inner knob at 12 o'clock, but my ears tell me otherwise.

[Ozpeter]

The inner knob is digital gain.  If you lower the level using it, you are still getting analog clipping but recording that analog clipping at a lower digital level.  If you increase the digital gain you are not doing anything you couldn't do more safely in your DAW software later.  Unless you do no post-production there is no logical use for the digital gain control.

After the first few outings you should have a pretty good idea of what clicky knob setting to use with your normal mics (and preamp if any).

[bugg100]

If you run in 24 bit, how hot do you run your levels?  Why not run at lower peaks in 24 bit and normalise in post giving yourself more headroom without the raised noisefloor of 16 bit? Thus making changing levels on the fly less an issue.

I think I'm going to have go against the CW on the r-44 level adjusting. Unless I can hear something bad, I'm switching back to using the outer (clicky knob) for rough adjustments before the music starts, and spinning the inner (smooth) knob for on-the-fly. Those 6db jumps are just too rough, and the dropouts too noticeable.

I know the recommendation is to leave the inner knob at 12 o'clock, but my ears tell me otherwise.

[cybergaloot]

The inner knob is digital gain.  If you lower the level using it, you are still getting analog clipping but recording that analog clipping at a lower digital level.  If you increase the digital gain you are not doing anything you couldn't do more safely in your DAW software later.  Unless you do no post-production there is no logical use for the digital gain control.

Actually I found one. I have my line outs set to monitor and have been on occasion using it to feed the line in of another recorder. Once I have the analog gain set I can use the digital gain to fine tune the levels so the line out signal is better mixed.

I also did the same thing but was feeding another PA so people outside the club could hear the show inside. They loved it!

[cybergaloot]

To clarify: By setting the line outs to 'monitor' I mean I'm using four channels in and outputting stereo on the line outs.

[danlynch]

Question about the "Limiter Link" function.  The manual isn't very clear on this.  In circumstances when I'm running 2 mic + board feed, I would like to use the limiter on the board feed when its hot but not on the mics.  The "link" command only seems to link together two channels for the limiter rather than "turn off" the limiter for channel where you don't want it used.  Or am I misreading this?

[Gutbucket]

Question about the "Limiter Link" function.  The manual isn't very clear on this.  In circumstances when I'm running 2 mic + board feed, I would like to use the limiter on the board feed when its hot but not on the mics.  The "link" command only seems to link together two channels for the limiter rather than "turn off" the limiter for channel where you don't want it used.  Or am I misreading this?

There are seperate settings for linking channels and for turning on the compressor for playback, for recording, or both.  You can link your two SBD channels (either ch 1&2 or 3&4) or have the compressor working them independently as you wish, but you also need to set the box on the display labled REC to ON for that channel pair or for both channels if not linked. The effects button will then light indicating that an effect (in this case the compressor) is in use.