Topic: EDIROL R-44 (PART IV)

[Gutbucket]

The single stereo file / 4 mono files / 2 stereo files / one 4 channel file choice on the recorder is really only about how many channels are stored in each individual WAV file..  AND if the software you use to edit /play them recognizes those formats.  If so, the you can route the recorded channels any way you care to after the fact.

I often record 4 channel surround with Left/Center/Right/Back channels.  It would seem obvious for me to write 4 mono files, or one single 4 channel file, which would make sense for the surround material. But even with the R-44 I usually record two stereo files instead: one L/R and the other C/B, because I can listen to the L/R stereo file anytime (or the C/B file for that matter) and as long as I have all four recorded channels, I can mix or route them anyway I want.  Mostly a convenience thing for me.

[Ozpeter]

The more channels you have in the file, the more data will be present for any given running time, and therefore you'll hit file splitting earlier - which these days shouldn't be a big issue but none the less, it's a consideration.

[cybergaloot]

Most editing software will allow you to split stereo files anyway so you can mix and match in post all you want. I do it all the time with Audacity. I haven't tried 4 channel files but see no point to them for my purposes. I usually pull two channels of soundboard and two of mics, having them as two stereo files helps keep them organized.

[kirk97132]

I like to run the mono setting.  Then I can just load it into my editor and do what ever I want.  If it were stereo it's one more step to get them separated before I can do mixing.  For my purposes I've found that i don't always pan each channel 100% either.  Of course it all depends on what you are after, how you recorded and personal taste.  Kirk

[Gutbucket]

Good point.  I need to split or copy my Center/Back stereo file when I edit. 

That makes me wonder if can I set the R-44 to record one stereo file for channels 1&2 + 2 mono files for ch 3&4?

[kirk97132]

NO menu options for that.  It's mono x #channels(1, 2, 3, 4,) stereo x(1 or 2) and wav X 4 the only odd combinations are if you run digi & analog inputs or mono X3

[BayTaynt3d]

I'm looking to upgrade the 8 gig SDHC card I've been using for a couple of years now with a 16 gig card. Anyone have any good leads on a low-priced SDHC 16 gig card that's known to work in the R44?

[Todd R]

I've been using an A-data card since I got my R44 without any problems:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211300

[DSatz]

I would think the worst-case situation would be recording 24-bit audio using MONO x 4 at 24/96 or MONO x 2 at 24/192. Those settings should require the largest number of disk I/O operations per minute, and thus have the least leeway for completing one burst of disk I/O before the next one needs to start.

If buffer overflow is the main concern, it should be most likely to occur with those settings, no? If so, then it seems to me that people might want to test new memory cards with those settings, unless they're sure that they will never use such high sampling rates for a recording.

Does that make sense?

--best regards

[datmike]

B&H has the R-44 at $964.95 right now.

[cybergaloot]

B&H has the R-44 at $964.95 right now.

Wow! I paid $738 with free shipping from Full Compass when I got mine.

[justink]

Finally caught the fedex lady today, and got my Oade CM R-44!

this thing is tiny from what you'd expect!  i've used a DAP1 and 722 before from loans, but i'm impressed with the 44's size.

i decided to check out my 4GB SD card that works flawlessly in my R-09.  so i set the R-44 to 24/192 and recorded stereox1 using the internal mics.  just sat it in front of the tv for a few minutes.  about a minute in to the recording, i got the "slow card error"...  upon playback, the recording is full of dropouts.  about a one or two second drop out every 7 or 8 seconds on the recording. 

so, i guess i need some SD card options that are known to work well with the R-44.  16gb should be fine to record 4 channels at 24/192 or 96 right?

also, what's the basic setup i should set it at?  planning on using the dvd battery (adapter?) i use with the ua-5 and mostly running 2 channel external mics, sometimes 4 (stereox1, stereox2). gain knobs?

anything else important to know?

i read all the threads here a few weeks ago, but i need to go over them again now that i have this thing in front of me. 

i can't wait to get this bad boy to a show!

[tgakidis]

I have had my r44 for a few months and have had no issues with Kingston class 4 cards.  I have run 2x stereo @ 24/96, digital + 1x stereo @ 24/96 and 4x mono @ 24/48.  I was lucky to find four 16g Kingston class 4 cards for just over $100 shipped.  I think I saw that buy.com had the cards in the $30 range recently.

[justink]

I have had my r44 for a few months and have had no issues with Kingston class 4 cards.  I have run 2x stereo @ 24/96, digital + 1x stereo @ 24/96 and 4x mono @ 24/48.  I was lucky to find four 16g Kingston class 4 cards for just over $100 shipped.  I think I saw that buy.com had the cards in the $30 range recently.

okay, Kingston class 4 it is then! Someone else suggested them as well. Thanks!

Anyone know about how long rechargeable AA's will last for 4 channels?  I guess I should just run some tests at home to be sure. Glad I found out my previous card sucks before I took it out to a show.

[vwmule]

I wouldn't count on more than two hours on the rechargeables. I'd urge anyone with an R-44 to get a DVD battery or two and use rechargeables in the chamber as a security policy.