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Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« on: March 23, 2005, 10:31:58 AM »
Anyone recomend a good, small pre/phantom/AD unit? I know the AD-20 and PS-2, but I'm wondering if there is an all-in-one unit out there to use with the franken naks. Thanks.


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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2005, 10:41:38 AM »
best you are going to get is a stealthable pre and a recording device that has a suitable A/D converter for stealthing...

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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2005, 10:43:03 AM »
I was affraid of that.

And I would need the Dcode® PS-2, not just the regualr PS-2, as the regular just has 1 input? What are the outs on the Dcode® PS-2?
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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2005, 11:53:04 AM »
My PS-2 had 2 inputs... I'm not sure if it was a regular one though.
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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2005, 12:13:11 PM »
Born, is stealthing with the UA-5 too hard? I guess you are thinking about real hardcore stealth situations were you can't have any bags, etc. etc.?


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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2005, 12:16:54 PM »
Born, is stealthing with the UA-5 too hard? I guess you are thinking about real hardcore stealth situations were you can't have any bags, etc. etc.?



The UA-5 is a breeze when there is no bag check (ie, the Black Cat), but for places like 930 I'd like something a bit smaller that I can crotch. Sure a UA-5 COULD be crotched, but, I'd like to explore options.

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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2005, 12:48:16 PM »
where there's a UA-5, there's a huge battery too...
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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2005, 12:51:02 PM »
where there's a UA-5, there's a huge battery too...


Then there's that too. Battery is black and easily hidden on the bottom of a bag, in rolled up clothes, etc. Not worried about that, more the bulk of the unit it self.  But then I started thinking, with the PS-2 and AD-20, you've got that much added wiring to worry about. Maybe it just ain't worth it.

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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2005, 01:33:19 PM »
I use the FP-24, rebranded mixpre and just use the AD in the jb3, works pretty well for me.  My wilco show using this is in the kickdowns. 
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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2005, 01:50:03 PM »
I use the FP-24, rebranded mixpre and just use the AD in the jb3, works pretty well for me.  My wilco show using this is in the kickdowns. 

Ouch...~$900 is a bit more then I'm willing to spend....But thanks for the idea.
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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2005, 01:51:34 PM »
Ouch...~$900 is a bit more then I'm willing to spend....But thanks for the idea.

you already have the JB3, you just buy a MP2 or rebranded box which goes for ~$400

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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2005, 02:48:00 PM »
Ouch...~$900 is a bit more then I'm willing to spend....But thanks for the idea.

you already have the JB3, you just buy a MP2 or rebranded box which goes for ~$400

I must be looking in the wrong place, because everything I find is right around $850 - $885.
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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2005, 02:51:04 PM »
I use the FP-24, rebranded mixpre and just use the AD in the jb3, works pretty well for me.  My wilco show using this is in the kickdowns. 

Ouch...~$900 is a bit more then I'm willing to spend....But thanks for the idea.


you gotta look used, mine was $400 from John Kelly.  The FP-24 is exactly the same as the Mixpre, just different name.  The MP-2 is different only in that it gives 16db automatically of gain, you lose 6 or 10 cant remember exactly if you use tape out instead of xlr out.  And it allows for Mid side recordings which the mixpre doesnt.  The Mixpre gives no automatic gain, and it doesnt allow you to turn off the LEDs, the Mixpre does.  So weigh the options and search out ebay. 
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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2005, 02:57:25 PM »
i dont even think you can get the MP2 anymore...sound devices discontinued it...I just sold mind used for $400 a couple of weeks ago

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Re: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2005, 03:38:26 PM »
I still have a Beyer MV-100 for sale. Not trying to hijack your thread here, but that might be an option for you. Runs on two 9V's, definitely stealthable and very good sounding.

 

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