Topic: How to "wear" preamp + recorder?

[Teen Wolf Blitzer]

YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT

You give a bad name to tapers.  That is all.

[Seth01]

YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT

You give a bad name to tapers.  That is all.

There have been plenty of times where I've had the band's written consent but the venue either refused to allow me to tape or were just making my life so difficult that it was just less trouble to stealth.  Just because stealth is involved doesn't mean that consent isn't.

Just a thought.

[illconditioned]

YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT
YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT

You give a bad name to tapers.  That is all.

Not everyone agrees with this.  Some of us, myself included, may record anyway, but choose not to distribute it.  Maybe there is an argument for this (personal playback only), maybe not.  Regardless, some people will still tape.  That is certain...

  Richard

[travelinbeat]

YOU SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT

meh.

[skelly14120]

Ok heres my 2 cents into this, I record regardless of venue or band policy, I almost never distribute to anyone  its a personal reminder of the show so I dont see whats the big deal if do it ,the main reason most bands and venues dont allow it is because of the potential missuse of the recording, I am pretty sure that Im not going to go doing that

[skelly14120]

also, everyone prefers different music, in my opinion most of the open taping bands are S@!# why should us who dont like "jam" type bands suffer from lack of live recordings ,live music something to be heard ,remembered and experienced

[Humbug]

I use both methods.

There have been numerous occasions where I have started off by not asking a band, stealthing them, sending them a copy, and ending up open taping them for future gigs. This definitely does not give a bad name for tapers, especially when you donate recordings for their use.

Often, the venue is too small or the wrong shape for a stand. By wrong shape, I mean much deeper than it is wide, with no central pillar to place a mic stand in front of. In this case a stand at the back of the room will sound terrible, whereas a stealth recording in the sweet spot will work well.

Sometimes it's just too much hassle to ask a venue for permission, though I have a good relationship with several London venues or sound engineers.

Discussion of stealth methods, IMO, is a valid use of space on this website.

[acidjack]

also, everyone prefers different music, in my opinion most of the open taping bands are S@!# why should us who dont like "jam" type bands suffer from lack of live recordings ,live music something to be heard ,remembered and experienced

Certainly it is true that the "jam" scene is overall more receptive to tapers than other types of music.  But I have found that, at least among small/mid-size indie rock acts these days, they are often happy to permit taping if you are courteous enough to (1) ask in advance and (2) be courteous about any requests they may have ("we want to hear it first," etc.).

That said, I find the number one impediment to open taping the artist is also rarely the artist themself, but someone in the label/management. This is true for countless artists old and new.  So is one supposed to not record simply because some person on the business side decides it's so?  I recently honored a request not to tape after I asked permission from the label and got denied; I acquiesced and hope the goodwill will pay off next time they are in town.  At the same time, admittedly, had I known they would do that, I would have just stealthed to begin with, especially b/c the band members themselves enthusiastically wanted me to tape.

[skelly14120]

I feel that other then at shows of bands that are  known to be accomidating to tapers ,other concert venues and staff and concert goers  look at you as a bootlegger , not knowing there is a clear difference between that and a taper.So drawing little or no attention to yourself saves you the conflict of getting thrown out or whatever.
venues dont know that bands may not care , This one time I was videotaping a band I know quite well and have done video before. Even at the same venue the security comes up to me and starts screaming and me and knocking my arm down telling me I cant video tape.I was taken to the other room where I was told "it creeps a lot of bands out you can go back in but stop recording" little did they know i caught em on stealth recording .The band made it up to me for the securitys shit treatment .but the band has since gone on indefinite hiatus and most likely wont be back ever again

[itook2much]

I SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT

I give a bad name to tapers.  That is all.

Fixed that for you. 

http://zz22.net/philzone/2007/hep-c/messages/427483/339024.html
Santana
Showplace At Portland Meadows
Portland, Oregon
1999-08-21

Source: Audio Technica 853A's (hat, FOB, DFC, 6th row)>
battery box>Denon DTR-80P@16/44.1.

Transfer: Denon DTR-80P>M/Audio Audiophile 2496>Dell Dimension 4600>
Wavelab 5.0 (normalized, fades added at beginning and end of set)>
CDwave 1.93.3 (tracked)>Flac Frontend 1.7.1 (level >flac16. (shntool verified)

Recording and Transfer by Mark Burgin tapermark@yahoo.com

DO NOT SELL/BUY THIS RECORDING, ENCODE TO LOSSY FORMATS
OR CHANGE THESE FILES IN ANY WAY. Thank You


Disc One: [68:58]
01 ..Spiritual [3:11]
02 Yaleo# [7:28]
03 Bachalao Con Pan# [8:03]
04 Put Your Lights On# [5:34]
05 Smooth [4:51]
06 Day Of Celebration [5:17]
07 Victory Is One^ [6:31]
08 Maria, Maria [6:48]
09 Europa [7:39]
10 Drums [13:36]

Disc Two: [23:45]
01 Black Magic Woman/Gypsy Queen [8:36]
02 Oye Coma Va [9:07]
03 E: Corozon Espinado* [6:02]

# w/ Ozomatli
^ w/ Sergio from Mana
* w/ Mana

Carlos Santana: guitar
Tony Lindsay: vocals
Benny Rietveld: bass
Rodney Holmes: drums
Chester Thompson: keyboards
Karl Perazzo: percussion
Raul Rekow: percussion

[Belexes]

Cool. Mark BurginTM got consent from Carlos Santana.

 

[travelinbeat]

I SHOULDN'T RECORD BANDS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT

I give a bad name to tapers.  That is all.

Fixed that for you. 

Oh SNAP!

[Humbug]

Nice one!

It's good to have principles from the outset, and stick to them 

So anyway, about my recording from Dec 2007, how do I stop the Japanese bootleggers from getting a copy, yet still reach my target audience, many of whom have stated that they enjoy picking up the latest megabucks limited edition Tarantura release from Tokyo?

[itook2much]

You really don't have a way.  If the band in question is the one I think it is, it's a no-win situation.

If you torrent it, the bootleg companies just download it, EQ & compress the shit out of it, then sell it.  In many cases to the same fans that already downloaded the better, unaltered master.

If you just trade it out or vine it or some such thing, it'll still get to the bootleg companies.  Sold to them by the very same fans you're trying to benefit.

[sparkey]

Anyone have a link to a hat that won't clash with my Schoeps?  Actives>Nola kwon bar?