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Which source did you prefer, and why?

I prefer A and think it's the V3
6 (20.7%)
I prefer A and think it's the wmod-UA5
2 (6.9%)
I prefer B and think it's the V3
8 (27.6%)
I prefer B and think it's the wmod-UA5
2 (6.9%)
I think both A and B suck
0 (0%)
I can't tell the difference between A and B
1 (3.4%)
WTF, bugger off with all these comps, Skalinder!!
10 (34.5%)

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Author Topic: RESEED: Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison  (Read 17159 times)

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Offline Brian Skalinder

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RESEED: Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« on: December 09, 2003, 02:06:58 PM »
Anyone?  I haven't given a thorough listen on my home stereo yet...but will in the next couple days.  Sixteen downloads so far and a few more coming, most of whom I suspect are from this board.  Let's hear what you all have to say!
« Last Edit: January 11, 2005, 12:54:42 PM by Brian Skalinder »
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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2003, 05:17:36 PM »
Where is this download available?
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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2003, 05:21:32 PM »
Where is this download available?

It's on bt.etree.org.  There's a thread in the Kickdown section with the .torrent URL, too, I think.
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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2003, 05:22:29 PM »
Todd, they finally put dsl way up in them hills... jump on this and give your opinion!
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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2003, 08:01:57 PM »
I like source A better.  It sounds clearer, the highs are more distinguished, and the bass is deeper(but the drawback is that the bass seems to "last" longer).  Source B seems flatter but not as crisp.
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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2003, 08:11:00 PM »
I liked source A better also.
the difference between the 2 boxes could be heard on this compairison much more than the last one.

I thought that the highs were much better in source A
and it almost sounded like source A was recorded from a closer location than source B,  had more of the "in your face" sound that I love to hear in live tapes.  

Source A seemed to have the fuller sound accross the board that I sometime hear after turning up the levels to bounce close to zero instead of -6.

Although I did like source A better,  source B sounded very good except for the few seconds right after hearing source A.

I'm guessing that source A = V3 because I liked it better,  but I did that the last time too and was wrong.
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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2003, 08:18:19 PM »
downloading it now, looking forward to listening and analyzing.

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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2003, 08:26:45 PM »
well i'm sticking with the same methods i used last time. I think source A is definitely the V3 because to my ears i hear more room sound.  Source B sounds a little muddy on the low end and sounds much farther away  than source A.  also the guitars, especially chuck's sound a little more colored in the low mids leading me to believe even more so that B is the w-mod. Source A sounds  better to me and it saddens me to say so since i own a w-mod, so i hope i'm wrong;D although the crispiness/clarity of the guitars in source lead me to believe otherwise.

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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2003, 09:03:37 PM »
This is cake, at least I hope so...

Surce A...much brighter!  The high end is extremely well defined and clear.  Clarity was the key to this source sounding good.  I should also add that I felt a lot more air, less humid if you wil in this source.

Source B...darker sounding, with a very big well rounded bass.  The high end was not pronounced as much, but still there.  This feels like the air was thicker, and that time moved slightly slower.  This sounds very much like what a mini-me would havfe reproduced to me, but with a lot less top end definition which led to the "back-of board effect" here.  

Source A to my ears was clearly the V3, which I recognized almost immediately...again, I hope!  Source B is the wmod for sure.  The warm mod to my ears, or at least source B, is very apogee sounding with worse a/d's.  This leads to that effect I was talking about earlier I think, as the pre is just not that "fast" to my ears, and the sound does not seem to be as well defined at all.  

Just my ears, we all hear very diferently

The sound as a whole I thought was very good on both sources, and I actually after listening tonight prefer source A, but probably only with these mics  I really don't think schoeps mics need a colored pre, most others do!

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If I am right, why Doug would compare the v3 and wmod is beyond me?

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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2003, 10:11:16 PM »
"Source A seemed to have the fuller sound accross the board that I sometime hear after turning up the levels to bounce close to zero instead of -6."  Very interesting..I have been trying to figure out why my Boston Phish source sounds so loud.....perhaps you revealed something I didn't notice.
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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2003, 10:40:41 PM »
Damn....I guess I'm going out on a limb here but I'd say

SOurce A = w-mod
Source B = v3


I preferred source B myself.......


Source A seemed a bit too warm and the low end seemed exaggerated.

Source B was tight and seemed more linear (sp?) .  It also, I thought, had more of an up front sound...source A just seemed a bit louder (higher levels)

I only listened through headphones so I may be way off.

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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2003, 11:19:49 PM »
i will second daryan's thoughts

A = V3
B = UA-5

i think the levels were a tad lower in B, producing the further away sounding effect.

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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2003, 09:18:05 AM »
a- v3
b- UA5

I'd love to hear this same comp run with a set of AKG's or DPA's. I think the classic Schoep's boom hurts the UA5 tape a lot more than the v3 tape.
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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2003, 10:25:29 AM »
im going with the a- v3, b-ua5.  the first has that very bright sound... that being said i think im actually more a fan of the ua-5 in this case.  i dont think the sound fits moe particularly well.  i think it might fit someone like yonder mountain or someone with some more in their highs a bit better.

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Re:Round 2: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2003, 10:31:55 AM »
i prefer A and am hoping it's the wmod UA5 seeing how i run one.  :)

 

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