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making a batterybox
« on: March 17, 2005, 08:07:59 PM »
i made a new battery box in use with a 12 volt mini battery. i needed no roll off so i used 2,2 uF capicators.

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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2005, 09:01:26 PM »
cool

how hard was that? did you have plans for it?


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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2005, 09:11:41 PM »
it's not hard only 4 parts.

               --------------||---------------------------hot--- (left)
               |           2.2 microfarad
from left mic  |           input capacitor
               |
 ---hot--------+----10k ohm-- "+"
                               \
 ---ground----------------------)---+--------------------shield-----
                               /    |
 ---hot--------+----10k ohm-- "+"  "-"
               |    resistor   9 volt
 from right mic|               battery
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               --------------||---------------------------hot--- (right)
                       2,2 microfarad
                           input capacitor
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2005, 09:37:43 PM »
cool thanks
i think i am going to give this a shot some time

you should put this in the The Archive


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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2005, 10:00:07 AM »
Very cool!

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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2005, 08:34:01 AM »
i'm going to stealth with it tomorrow.
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2005, 12:52:46 PM »
let us know how it goes


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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2005, 04:49:21 AM »
i didnt' tape we were lost couldn't find the venue and came in a half hour to late, i hope someone taped it was a verry good show. John Fogerty rocks. better luck next time.
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2005, 10:53:46 AM »
i didnt' tape we were lost couldn't find the venue and came in a half hour to late, i hope someone taped it was a verry good show. John Fogerty rocks. better luck next time.


sorry to hear that


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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2005, 11:00:08 AM »
Nice work.

If I were you, I'd isolate the soldered joins in order to avoid short circuit. (hope you understand my crappy tech english  :o ).

A bit better schematics ;)
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2005, 05:44:05 PM »
have you run this yet?


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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2005, 11:29:58 AM »
not yet. i tested it at home. but not in the field yet.
im sure it will work. now i await for a nice gig.

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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2005, 12:31:16 PM »
I built this + it successfully powered my DPA 4061's.  The SP-Preamp does the job now though.
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2005, 06:10:28 PM »
great to hear it workes there too. you used 12v battery's too or the 9 vollts?
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2005, 12:10:34 PM »
great to hear it workes there too. you used 12v battery's too or the 9 vollts?

9V
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2005, 02:47:01 AM »
Hey. I guess you are the man to ask.  :)

I need a battery module with an adjustable bass roll-off filter (no level control needed).

A friend of mine will help me to build one but he doesn't really know how to do it (he is an electrician but doesn't know a thing about taping). Is it possible to get some info about this? I would appreciate it a lot as they are very expensive to buy.

It will be used together with my SHARP Minidisc recorder MD-MT770W and Sound Professionals Mini Binaural Microphones SP-BMC-2. Hopefully making some good recordings in the future.
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2005, 11:24:10 AM »
i found this shematic on mic bulders. it has a switchable bass roll off.
you need to make it two times for stereo.

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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2005, 01:15:52 PM »
Oh! Thanks! :)

I guess this was a bit easier to understand. I'm just curious about one thing. In the description we can read "electret". Is that for electret mics only? I have mini binaureal mics. Could it make any difference?  ::)
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2005, 04:06:38 PM »
you'll be fine with your mics. this gives 9 volt plugin power to your mics. with this your mics are 'electred'.

oh yes the part with the battery and everything left from it you only have to builth once.
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2005, 06:23:59 PM »
Why are there used those capacitors in series with battery??
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2005, 09:37:16 AM »
from the info text file with this schematic.

There are 2 capacitors (C3, C4) across the 9 v battery. These are optional but
help bypass internal impedance of the battery at audio frequencies. The battery
powers the electret through a 5.6 k resistor (R1). I don't know if this value is
optimum - comments welcomed.
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2005, 03:41:40 PM »


Time to try out my soldering skills ;D
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2005, 04:00:03 PM »
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Time to try out my soldering skills ;D

What kind of caps are those?  Tantalum?  Those aren't the best to put in the path of an audio signal.

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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2005, 04:27:36 PM »
What kind of caps are those?  Tantalum?  Those aren't the best to put in the path of an audio signal.

They're listed as ceramic...
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2005, 05:21:25 PM »
Some comments since I see that you are using 12v instead of 9v...

I have experimented a little, and experimented with 9v vs 18v.  I tested with two mics, AT853 and PC-62.  18v improved the AT853 performance, but the PC-62 suffered.  I would try your setup both ways, that extra 3 volts may not be a good thing, then again it might.
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2005, 12:25:32 AM »
They're listed as ceramic...

Polypropylene metal film caps will better suit this project, I don't think ceramic are very good.

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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2005, 03:55:52 AM »
Polypropylene metal film caps will better suit this project, I don't think ceramic are very good.

Yeah, I know. However, there aren't any film caps with capacity lower than 1uF. I want to use 220nF...
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« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2005, 09:18:28 AM »
Yeah, I know. However, there aren't any film caps with capacity lower than 1uF. I want to use 220nF...

Um, there is a huge selection of film caps under 1uf.  Go to digikey.com or mouser.com.  This past week I ordered a bunch of metal poly capacitors for some new battery boxes.

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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2005, 10:16:32 AM »
Some comments since I see that you are using 12v instead of 9v...

I have experimented a little, and experimented with 9v vs 18v.  I tested with two mics, AT853 and PC-62.  18v improved the AT853 performance, but the PC-62 suffered.  I would try your setup both ways, that extra 3 volts may not be a good thing, then again it might.

sound proffesionals use 12v now also, so i think it should be ok.
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Re: making a batterybox
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2005, 07:00:11 AM »
m, there is a huge selection of film caps under 1uf.  Go to digikey.com or mouser.com.  This past week I ordered a bunch of metal poly capacitors for some new battery boxes.


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