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Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« on: November 17, 2006, 03:19:59 PM »
OK, I already looked in the archive section... and didn't find this.
I'm doing some research and need a list of the popular field recorders and whether they have plug-in power for microphones. I need a list...

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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2006, 02:42:04 PM »
Do you mean full phantom power, or just 5v plug in power?

I know the R09, MT 2496, and all the old Sony portable DATs have 5v power.
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2006, 03:25:55 PM »
Do you mean full phantom power, or just 5v plug in power?

I know the R09, MT 2496, and all the old Sony portable DATs have 5v power.

Yeah, any kind of power for a microphone...
I tbhought the old Sony's had 9v DC? I know the MT has 30v DC.

So is this correct so far?:

Edirol R-09               9v
M-Audio MT 2496    30v
Martantz PMD 660   48v
Marantz PMD 671    48v
Sony D3                 9v
Sony D7                 9v
Sony D8                 9v
Sony D10               9v


« Last Edit: November 19, 2006, 03:45:04 PM by Chuck »
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2006, 03:29:20 PM »
you talking about recorders or just pre amps?  not all of those are recorders...
Peluso CEMC6, ck4/ck21
Oktava MC012
Sony ECM260f
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2006, 03:43:40 PM »
you talking about recorders or just pre amps?  not all of those are recorders...

Yeah, you are right. I just need recorders. I got a bit carried away. I removed the UA-5.
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2006, 04:04:33 PM »


Tascam HDP2,  DAP1, Edirol R4 and R4pro,Fostex FR2, and Don't forget the SD 722 and 744 all have 48 volt phanton. the Sd's I believe also supply tpower as well.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2006, 04:10:34 PM by OtheroneK »
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2006, 04:18:17 PM »
Cool...  +T thanks
I'm sure there are a ton that I'm missing...

Edirol R-09               9v
Edirol R4 / R4 Pro    48v
Fostex FR2             48
M-Audio MT 2496    30v
Martantz PMD 660   48v
Marantz PMD 671    48v
Sony D3                 9v
Sony D7                 9v
Sony D8                 9v
Sony D10               9v
Sound Devices 722  48v
Sound Devices 744  48v
Tascam DAP1        48v
Tascam HDP2         48v
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2006, 08:28:49 PM »
yeah your missing MD and Hi-MD recorders
and Zoom H4, Iriver Hxxx
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2006, 08:40:54 PM »
yeah your missing MD and Hi-MD recorders
and Zoom H4, Iriver Hxxx

Can you help with adding which of those have mic power and what voltage they deliver?
I'm not familiar with the specs of the devices you mentioned.
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Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2006, 12:08:52 AM »
I think the iriver gives 2.5v, but i'm not 100% sure.

Keep in mind that plug in power is different than phantom power.  Plug in power is generally referred to as power for small mics like 5v or 2.5v such as DPA 4060's, SP-CMC-4's etc, phantom power is the 30v, 48v for full body mics that could not possibly run off plug in 5v or 2.5v.  Also there is T-Power which is 12v and I think 15v (video guys correct me) which are for special mics which require T power, such as some schoeps mics.   I think the SD 7xx series provides T power as well as phantom power.
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2006, 09:22:30 AM »
I think the iriver gives 2.5v, but i'm not 100% sure.

Keep in mind that plug in power is different than phantom power.  Plug in power is generally referred to as power for small mics like 5v or 2.5v such as DPA 4060's, SP-CMC-4's etc, phantom power is the 30v, 48v for full body mics that could not possibly run off plug in 5v or 2.5v.  Also there is T-Power which is 12v and I think 15v (video guys correct me) which are for special mics which require T power, such as some schoeps mics.   I think the SD 7xx series provides T power as well as phantom power.

So the ones I have listed as 9v are probably really 5v?
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2006, 10:23:14 AM »
I think the iriver gives 2.5v, but i'm not 100% sure.

Keep in mind that plug in power is different than phantom power.  Plug in power is generally referred to as power for small mics like 5v or 2.5v such as DPA 4060's, SP-CMC-4's etc, phantom power is the 30v, 48v for full body mics that could not possibly run off plug in 5v or 2.5v.  Also there is T-Power which is 12v and I think 15v (video guys correct me) which are for special mics which require T power, such as some schoeps mics.   I think the SD 7xx series provides T power as well as phantom power.

So the ones I have listed as 9v are probably really 5v?

You would have to measure it to be sure, but likely they are 5v or less
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2006, 10:28:40 AM »
I think the iriver gives 2.5v, but i'm not 100% sure.

Keep in mind that plug in power is different than phantom power.  Plug in power is generally referred to as power for small mics like 5v or 2.5v such as DPA 4060's, SP-CMC-4's etc, phantom power is the 30v, 48v for full body mics that could not possibly run off plug in 5v or 2.5v.  Also there is T-Power which is 12v and I think 15v (video guys correct me) which are for special mics which require T power, such as some schoeps mics.   I think the SD 7xx series provides T power as well as phantom power.

So the ones I have listed as 9v are probably really 5v?

You would have to measure it to be sure, but likely they are 5v or less

Yeah, unfortunately, I don't have any of those recorders...  :(
I'll have to do some research.
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Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2006, 10:33:02 AM »
i think i have my old d7 and d8 manuals around if i find them i'll let you know.  I can measure my d6 (old school) and iriver if you'd like.
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2006, 09:33:51 PM »
Edirol R-09               plug-in power
Edirol R4 / R4 Pro    48v
Fostex FR2             48
M-Audio MT 2496    30v
Martantz PMD 660   48v
Marantz PMD 671    48v
Sony D3                 plug-in power
Sony D7                 plug-in power
Sony D8                 plug-in power
Sony D10               plug-in power
Sound Devices 722  48v
Sound Devices 744  48v
Tascam DAP1         48v
Tascam HDP2         48v
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2006, 10:41:34 PM »
Edirol R-09               plug-in power
Edirol R4 / R4 Pro    48v
Fostex FR2             48
M-Audio MT 2496    30v
Martantz PMD 660   48v
Marantz PMD 671    48v
Sony D3                 plug-in power
Sony D7                 plug-in power
Sony D8                 plug-in power
Sony D10               plug-in power
Sound Devices 722  48v
Sound Devices 744  48v
Tascam DAP1         48v
Tascam HDP2         48v

I also have run in the past sony MD's (and friend used to run Sharp decks) and a sony M1 both of which supply plug-in power which is like 2.5v, you can also add the sony D100 which is the alternate version of the M1, it also has plug in power.  The HHB porta dats the 1000 and TC1000 provided 48volt phantom power.  The panasonic sv255 dat supplied phantom power as well.  The portable Teac dp20 (I think that what its name was) was the prosumer version of the Tascam DAP1, it too also supplied phantom power to mics.
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2006, 10:24:38 AM »
Thanks, +T:

Edirol R-09               plug-in power
Edirol R4 / R4 Pro    48v
Fostex FR2             48v
HHB 1000              48v
HHB TC1000          48v
M-Audio MT 2496    30v
Martantz PMD 660   48v
Marantz PMD 671    48v
Panasonic SV255     48v
Sony D3                 plug-in power
Sony D7                 plug-in power
Sony D8                 plug-in power
Sony D10               plug-in power
Sony 100               plug-in power
Sony M1                plug-in power
Sony MD                plug-in power
Sound Devices 722  48v
Sound Devices 744  48v
Tascam DAP1         48v
Tascam HDP2         48v
Teac DP20             48v
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Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
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Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2006, 05:08:17 PM »
measured 3,27 V plug in power on my iRiver iHP120
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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2006, 05:20:17 PM »
MiniDisc format is typically 2.38v

The plug-in-power standard is 1.5-10v DC

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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2006, 05:22:35 PM »
The portable Teac dp20 (I think that what its name was) was the prosumer version of the Tascam DAP1, it too also supplied phantom power to mics.

that deck was actually called the Teac DA-P20

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Re: Which field recorders have plug-in power for microphones?
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2006, 06:47:50 PM »
Recorders and the power they supply to microphones


Aaton Cantar-X        48v
Edirol R-09               plug-in power
Edirol R4 / R4 Pro    48v
Fostex FR2             48v
HHB 1000              48v
HHB Portadrive       48v
HHB TC1000          48v
iRiver iHP120          plug-in power
M-Audio MT 2496    30v
Martantz PMD 660   48v
Marantz PMD 671    48v
Nagra V                 48v
Nagra Ares BB+       48v
Panasonic SV255     48v
Sonosax MiniR82      48v
Sony D3                 plug-in power
Sony D7                 plug-in power
Sony D8                 plug-in power
Sony D10               plug-in power
Sony 100               plug-in power
Sony M1                plug-in power
Sony MD                plug-in power
Sound Devices 722  48v
Sound Devices 744  48v
Tascam DAP1         48v
Tascam HDP2         48v
Teac DA-P20          48v
Zaxcom Deva V       48v

Notes:
MiniDisc format is typically 2.38v
The plug-in-power standard is 1.5-10v DC


Edit: to add more recorders to the list.
Thanks for all the help. I will contine to add more as I get more responses.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 07:29:48 PM by Chuck »
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

Recordings on the LMA: http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/ChuckM
Recording website & blog: http://www.timebetweenthenotes.com

 

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