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Gear / Technical Help => Playback Forum => Topic started by: raheen_M_Shabbazz on May 19, 2004, 02:13:38 PM
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Hi Gang,
Never posted round these parts before, but I figure you all are the right group to pose this question to.
I'm considering taking the leap and going ALL DIGITAL. The stacks of discs and tapes cluttering up my life have GOT TO GO!
I'm going to get a few huge HDs and build up a virtual library instead of pissing around with discs and such.
I know, many of you are WAY ahead of me.
But, my question is this :: Which digital player would you all recommend?
There are so many of them out there -- Ipod, Neuros, Nomad, Rio, etc.
What do you all recommend? I know Rio supports FLAC, but do any of these show hope for supporting SHN?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...
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well i love my ipod :-) most others who own ipods will tell you the same
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I love my iPod as well.
I don't think there will ever be a player that supports .shn as it is a compressed format not a audio codec. WinAmp plays them with the .shnamp plugin. Unlike FLAC, Mp3, Ogg, AAC which are all audio codecs.
I've been converting alot of stuff for personal playback to AAC (I'm all mac) for use in my iPod and I backup everything as I go to a 250 GB external Firewire drive (just to make it easier to load stuff back to the iPod when I want to change whats there and to avoid redoing work). I'm sure that the other player can all do what you want to do. I just really prefer the ease of use with the iPod, with my iBook it's seems less with iTunes and it's just very easy to tote around and play every where I go.
(Side note: Jonny do you still want to sell that FM transmitter/Charger you offered me awhile back?)
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I love my iPod as well.
I don't think there will ever be a player that supports .shn as it is a compressed format not a audio codec. WinAmp plays them with the .shnamp plugin. Unlike FLAC, Mp3, Ogg, AAC which are all audio codecs.
I've been converting alot of stuff for personal playback to AAC (I'm all mac) for use in my iPod and I backup everything as I go to a 250 GB external Firewire drive (just to make it easier to load stuff back to the iPod when I want to change whats there and to avoid redoing work). I'm sure that the other player can all do what you want to do. I just really prefer the ease of use with the iPod, with my iBook it's seems less with iTunes and it's just very easy to tote around and play every where I go.
(Side note: Jonny do you still want to sell that FM transmitter/Charger you offered me awhile back?)
curious what type of 250 gig firewire drive you've got. I'm looking at a quantegy right now, but haven't shopped around much.
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lacie makes a good hard drive, but as damon pointed out, you must follow all steps before unplugging these units! not exactly un'plug and play'.
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yah id love to sell it to you drop me a pm and we will work things out
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Heath,
It's a Maxtor 250 GB drive. Was around $300 or so a few months back. Work bought it I get to use it. I do plan on getting one for home though. Or a few 100GB drives Those can be had pretty cheap.
Jonny, I'll pm you about that transmitter
Raheen,
Sorry for the thread jack.
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What do you all recommend? I know Rio supports FLAC, but do any of these show hope for supporting SHN?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...
There are no players that support SHN and my guess is there probably never will be. It bears mentioning that the iPod now supports Apple Lossless Audio, which I believe is synonymous with mp4 lossless (could be wrong about that). Filesizes are comparable to shn. And no, it's not OSS like FLAC but then again neither is SHN.
To answer your original question, I believe that the iPod is far and away the best portable digital music player available, in every way imaginable (except price).
Dave
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My Neuros has been a good friend for the week I have had it. It records upto 16/48 as well
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go with th nomad jukebox 3 and you can be a patcher as well.
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Just curious why folks are preferring the Ipod over the JB3?
I use my JB3 in the car everyday and it's become my primary recorder (haven't bought DAt tapes in a while now).
Perhaps it's a Mac thing?
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When you listen to shows on the Ipod does it have gaps or clicks like TAO discs?
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ipod has gaps.
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iPod's are just the flavor of the week. The JB3 works just as well, has gapless playback, records at 16 bit 44.1/48k .wav, and is about half the price. Yeah, they aren't as "cute" as an iPod....but whatever.
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Just curious why folks are preferring the Ipod over the JB3?
I use my JB3 in the car everyday and it's become my primary recorder (haven't bought DAt tapes in a while now).
Perhaps it's a Mac thing?
my guess would be that the ipod is significantly smaller than the jb3. i have a jb3 and there are many times where i wish it was small enough to fit in my pocket.
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iPod's are just the flavor of the week. The JB3 works just as well, has gapless playback, records at 16 bit 44.1/48k .wav, and is about half the price. Yeah, they aren't as "cute" as an iPod....but whatever.
and they work with macs effectively, and they are 1/4 of the size, and they fit in your pocket, and they can be used as external firewire drives, and the casing is made way better, and the navigation is much easier
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hmm, my nomad doesnt have gapless playback and i have the latest firmware to boot. Any ideas why? As for ipods, i hear they roll off the bass a bit.
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the newest firmware on the nomad removed gapless playback for some unknown reason
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the newest firmware on the nomad removed gapless playback for some unknown reason
oh that sucks ass >:(
why the hell did they do that for? Grrr...i'd rather leave the firmware alone and not drop back to an older firmware since everything is working out with my nomad. Let's just say i have rotten luck with electronics.
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yah no one else can figure it out either
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How about a rio karma? Not nearly as well know as the ipod or jb3 but it's supposedly the only one with gapless playback...
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ipod has gaps.
The Karma supports gapless playback and is also smaller than the JB3...and really smaller than the ipod overall...it's a little thicker but quite a bit shorter. I love mine, and would disagree w/ the ipod being the best portable. The Rio DJ is a cool auto playlist generator, you can create multiple playlists directly on the Karma, the battery life is ~15hrs, the screen is bigger, it's cheaper, it has an ethernet jack built into the base allowing it to sit on a network and send and receive files as a network device, etc....
mitch
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Just curious why folks are preferring the Ipod over the JB3?
I use my JB3 in the car everyday and it's become my primary recorder (haven't bought DAt tapes in a while now).
Perhaps it's a Mac thing?
Its a popularity thing. Most people are more concerned today with their image in other peoples eyes that they cannot make informed decisions on their own. Basically, Americans are SO stupid, they cannot think for themselves, therefore assume that whatever is "popular" is "best".
That's why SUVs are so popular and why women's liberation went to shit and why the iPod is so common...
But that's just my opinion...
Go with the Nomad Jukebox 3, does EVERYTHING that iPud does and more...
Terry
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Its a popularity thing. Most people are more concerned today with their image in other peoples eyes that they cannot make informed decisions on their own. Basically, Americans are SO stupid, they cannot think for themselves, therefore assume that whatever is "popular" is "best".
Wow. wow. Presumptious much? I'm glad that someone is so much more informed than the rest of us stupid Americans who buy expensive audio equipment to be popular. Of course that's why I bought my iPod, I figured it would bring in the chicks! It had nothing to do with its small size, sturdy construction, and far superior UI to the Karma and JB3. ::)
Dave