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contemplating eliminating the sxm2 for a field test of just mg210>mini me for an upcoming show...anyone run this rig?cr
Quote from: ellaguru on May 20, 2007, 08:49:05 AMcontemplating eliminating the sxm2 for a field test of just mg210>mini me for an upcoming show...anyone run this rig?crI run that exact rig: M210 > MiniMe > MT. I have never run a Sax in front of the MMe, but from other Sax recordings I have, the pres on the Sax and on the MMe are pretty much polar opposites. Try with the Sax for one set of a show and with just the MMe for another set. This is one where personal taste will rule the day. I like the MMe preamps; very warm and expansive. Not the most detailed in the world, but considering the crappy places in which I tape, that is fine with me. I did pick up a PSP2 to see if I could get an even larger soundstage, but have not been able to try it out yet. The drawback with the MMe pres is that they are a bit sloppy in the low end, something I would think that the Sax would correct. Then again, the Sax is a bit thin all around, IMHO, so the other characteristics of the MMe pres would stand out more if you just ran it alone.
Quote from: jlykos on June 04, 2007, 03:10:06 AMQuote from: ellaguru on May 20, 2007, 08:49:05 AMcontemplating eliminating the sxm2 for a field test of just mg210>mini me for an upcoming show...anyone run this rig?crI run that exact rig: M210 > MiniMe > MT. I have never run a Sax in front of the MMe, but from other Sax recordings I have, the pres on the Sax and on the MMe are pretty much polar opposites. Try with the Sax for one set of a show and with just the MMe for another set. This is one where personal taste will rule the day. I like the MMe preamps; very warm and expansive. Not the most detailed in the world, but considering the crappy places in which I tape, that is fine with me. I did pick up a PSP2 to see if I could get an even larger soundstage, but have not been able to try it out yet. The drawback with the MMe pres is that they are a bit sloppy in the low end, something I would think that the Sax would correct. Then again, the Sax is a bit thin all around, IMHO, so the other characteristics of the MMe pres would stand out more if you just ran it alone.got the DAT on right now of last nights dinosaur jr show...210>mme>d8/jb3....top end sounds better than the old sax>sbm combo that i ran for around 5 years...i was not set up in the prime taping location, but im pleased with new gear for the 1st time in a while...mind you, dino jr prob wasnt the ideal 'test' due to the spl/volume and the blind pig is not the best venue if yr off center, but so far, so good...ill be hitting the 2nd show tonight so ill have more to compare with...10db pads on the mics helped for sure!cr
Quote from: ellaguru on June 04, 2007, 11:38:05 AMQuote from: jlykos on June 04, 2007, 03:10:06 AMQuote from: ellaguru on May 20, 2007, 08:49:05 AMcontemplating eliminating the sxm2 for a field test of just mg210>mini me for an upcoming show...anyone run this rig?crI run that exact rig: M210 > MiniMe > MT. I have never run a Sax in front of the MMe, but from other Sax recordings I have, the pres on the Sax and on the MMe are pretty much polar opposites. Try with the Sax for one set of a show and with just the MMe for another set. This is one where personal taste will rule the day. I like the MMe preamps; very warm and expansive. Not the most detailed in the world, but considering the crappy places in which I tape, that is fine with me. I did pick up a PSP2 to see if I could get an even larger soundstage, but have not been able to try it out yet. The drawback with the MMe pres is that they are a bit sloppy in the low end, something I would think that the Sax would correct. Then again, the Sax is a bit thin all around, IMHO, so the other characteristics of the MMe pres would stand out more if you just ran it alone.got the DAT on right now of last nights dinosaur jr show...210>mme>d8/jb3....top end sounds better than the old sax>sbm combo that i ran for around 5 years...i was not set up in the prime taping location, but im pleased with new gear for the 1st time in a while...mind you, dino jr prob wasnt the ideal 'test' due to the spl/volume and the blind pig is not the best venue if yr off center, but so far, so good...ill be hitting the 2nd show tonight so ill have more to compare with...10db pads on the mics helped for sure!crI mostly tape metal shows and such (louder than all hell) and have never used the pads at all in the MGs. The Apogee can take a hot signal and you will be running closer to 0 gain on the MMe, which is ideal.You have noticed a thing that I am also not too wild about on the M210 > MMe combo and that is the tendency for the top end to become a bit too strident. The MGs really pronounce guitar tones and cymbals and I have a feeling that the MMe pre allows this through, for better or for worse. The midrange cannot be beat, however, IMHO.
I ran the soft-limiter once, and frankly, I didn't like the compressed feel of the sound. At this point, I've recorded some loud concerts without the limiter but with the -15dB on the Neumann's, and the results are much more dynamic.
Quote from: danlynch on June 05, 2007, 12:16:06 PMI ran the soft-limiter once, and frankly, I didn't like the compressed feel of the sound. At this point, I've recorded some loud concerts without the limiter but with the -15dB on the Neumann's, and the results are much more dynamic.There are several settings. Which one did you use? The first setting, for soft limit, does not involve the compressor. I just starts rounding off the signal at I believe -4 or -2 (have to check my manual) so as to prevent overages. The 2nd setting engages the compressor, where you have curves for 1, 2, or 3. I generally run mine so that it will never even engage, but there are times when a player really "gets on it" where the transients spike. I personally hate clips and would much rather have a soft limit, in difference to a hard limit, any day to save the recording. Feel free to check out any of my recordings made with the mini me, I always use the soft limiter. www.archive.org/bookmarks/stirinthesauce
I know you like, tape for people's approval and stuff, and wave your tapes around like they're your dick... but even you can't actually think section tapes from philips sound good.