Topic: DVD+ or DVD-, which one do ya'll prefer?

[F.O.Bean]

i just picked up an iomega super dvd writer thats an extrenal burner, its quite nice

anyway, which types of dvd's do ya'll like the best?

i noticed that the DVD+ kind write at 16x speed on mine compared to the DVD- writing only at 8x speed

[JackoRoses]

I prefer +.
Some like - better for older compatibility with dvd players.
Most players built in the last 3 years should have no problems with a +.
FWIW , my + discs play in my friends players...

[F.O.Bean]

suite, it will mainly be for trying to organize my music collection, having 8.5GB on each dual-layer disc is a great advantage for that

so since the + burns twice as fast, i'll most def go that route

anybody have experience w/ iomega dvd burners? especially the external ones

thanks,
  bean

[Ed.]

hey bean, just to let you know, 8x dvd burning vs 8x cd burning is completly different.  dvd burning is much faster.  i burn a single layer dvd-r at 2x in 30 mins.  thats 4.7gbs in 30 minutes, you can't write 4.7gbs to cdrs in 30 mins.  its different, i don't know how to explain it, but just believe me that its different.

also, i've yet to see any dvd media that is 8x-16x that is reletively cheap and dual layered stuff is even more.  i've also found +r media to be more abundant in stores like best buy, but the normal price is usally more expensive then -r.  also, -r works in everything, +r works in select things.  if you're just using them as data disc and not backing up movies, it really shouldn't matter cuz your dvd burner will read anything...but i'd stick to -r for videos.  thats just me tho...and most people that post on www.dvdrhelp.com agree.

also, i'd never burn a dvd at 16x, but thats just me.  i'd prefer to have a quality burn over a fast burn.  i won't go over 4x, and for important stuff i stick at 2x.

maybe i'm just paranoid tho.

[F.O.Bean]

yeah, i dont think speeds really matter because its ending digital 1's and 0's, BUT the chance for errors is more likely that way

im just happy to finally be able to back stuff up, and burn some dvd's for myself to watch

now i gotta get dvdx copy

[Ed.]

bah to dvd x copy

check out dvd shrink - its free and does a much better job at ripping dvds.

http://www.dvdshrink.org/where.html

[F.O.Bean]

T ed, is it THAT easy to do

[caymanreview]

bah to dvd x copy

check out dvd shrink - its free and does a much better job at ripping dvds.

http://www.dvdshrink.org/where.html

best program out there, pm me and il tell you some details!

i only burn dvd's at 2X

[sygdwm]

i only use -r at 2x cause thats my only choice but im happy w/ it. no coasters and they work in everyone's players. you dont need either software. i use to use dxd xopy for copywrited stuff, but all you have to do is copy and paste the 2 ts files on to your hd and burn as data. works for me. ymmv.

[Ed.]

yeah, with dvd shrink you can either rip the dvd to an iso file or a video_ts file.  load up nero > make video dvd > drag the contents from your ripped video_ts file to the video_ts file in nero...and burn.

pay no attention to the audio_ts folder.  thats for making dvda's so that folder should be empty at all times.

[caymanreview]

i prefer to use dvd_shrink when ripping dual layer movies, so i can ditch everything but the main movie. so compression is kept to an absolute minimum

[Ed.]

me too, with dvd shrink if you want the whole dvd, you can compress the hell out of the title menus and extras, leaving the main movie pretty much untouched.  which is what i always do.  also you can pick what audio you want, suptitles, etc.  i usually rip out all the subtitles and just leave in englinsh 5.1 or english dts for audio.  which saves a lot of room...rather than having 3-4 different audio tracks for the same movie.

[caymanreview]

95% of the time, i dont rip extra or anything, just the main movie and thats it. i rarely watch extra/preview type stuff, and if i do, il watch it on the original, and once is more than enough for that stuff

[Ed.]

i've never reauthored before, how easy is it to do?

[caymanreview]

very easy, just click re-author tab. and then choose what you want. i just drag and drop the main movie and only burn it.

99% of the time it will be just one main movie (and it will tell you its the main movie) but once in awhile i find em that have 2 parts to the main movie.

easy as cake

[Ed.]

what about audio options.  do you drag those over too, or is that all included in the main movie part?  i gotta have my dts.

[caymanreview]

hmmm. im not sure, i believe im copying all the audio options. they are minimal tho compared to the shit you are cutting out by re-authoring

im not real sure, i havent ripped a dvd in a few weeks tho...

[Ed.]

i'll have to test it out and see what happens, thanks for the tips.

[caymanreview]

i have been finding a few movies lately that dvd_shrink wont rip tho

they happened to ALL be angelina jolie movies

what programs can i use to rip protected discs like this that dvd shrink wont rip?

[Ed.]

try using dvd decryptor.  it should rip it to your puter at whatever size the dvd is, then you'll probably have to go back into dvd shrink with it and work with it from there.

[caymanreview]

ahh, cool. is dvd decrypter free?

[Ed.]

yep

http://www.dvddecrypter.com/

[caymanreview]

yep

http://www.dvddecrypter.com/

gracias

[Ed.]

  

thats what i'm here for.

[caymanreview]

 

thats what i'm here for.

id +t you, but that damn 12hr thing

[Ed.]

same here

[F.O.Bean]

so its that easy huh guys?

im sick and taking a few days off of work, i'll buy blank dvd's tomorrow and give it a try

[Ed.]

www.dvdrhelp.com has tons of "howto" guides if you get confused.  very nice step by steps and pictures to help.  its pretty easy tho, once you do it a couple of times it'll be like burning a cd.

[F.O.Bean]

one more nquestion, what is everyones favorite brand of dvd's

hopefully sams club has verbatims

[sygdwm]

never had a problem w/ fuji, sony, or maxell. all -r. ymmv. i get whats on sale.

[F.O.Bean]

thanks dre, +T

[caymanreview]

i get all my dvd media from allmediaoutlet.com

great deals over there, and alot of free shipping goews on over there

my last spindle was ritek, im gonna stick with these i think. solid!

[F.O.Bean]

thanks dustin, but i never buy blank media online cause i can wait for it to get here

so cd/dvd's i always buy in person

[caymanreview]

i order in advance and they usually offer free ground shipping. the prices make the difference

whats you fascination with verbatum (sp?)

[sygdwm]

im the same way. i just got 50 fuji for $20. good deal to me. the traffic sucked though.

[F.O.Bean]

sams club has cdr's for like 11 bux a 50 pack, and they seem to be pretty quality made, i rarely have a bad burn

[caymanreview]

sams club has cdr's for like 11 bux a 50 pack, and they seem to be pretty quality made, i rarely have a bad burn

i usually stick to either tdk or japan made fuji's on cdr's. but i have had luck with all dvd-/-r's except maxells with my dvd burner

[ashevillain]

hopefully sams club has verbatims

I use Verbatim DVD+R, never had a problem with them. My burner will burn the +R @ 4x and -R @ only 2x. I only tried one other brand before I stuck with Verbatims and that was TDK DVD-R. My Xbox wouldn't play those but did play burned Verbatims just fine so that's what I stuck with.

[F.O.Bean]

thanks guys, looks like i need to find some verbatims then

[edgar]

some VERY helpful stuff in here.

+T for all :-)

[Ed.]

i ordered like 200 ritek dvd-r's from www.allmediaoutlet.com for like 80 bux or something awhile ago.  i still have around 125 left.  i heard that all dvdr media has to go thru more testing than shitty cdrs so basically any brand that works in your drive and home stuff is fine.

ritek is good or anythinbg you can buy at best buy. 

[F.O.Bean]

i ordered like 200 ritek dvd-r's from www.allmediaoutlet.com for like 80 bux or something awhile ago.  i still have around 125 left.  i heard that all dvdr media has to go thru more testing than shitty cdrs so basically any brand that works in your drive and home stuff is fine.

ritek is good or anythinbg you can buy at best buy. 

thats what i heard about quality of cdr's vs. dvd's

[edgar]

ritek is good or anythinbg you can buy at best buy. 

not true...

if you look close at media sold at best buy...some is from taiwan, some from japan, and im sure you've all heard those stories...


i was there just yesterday and saw fuji dvd+r packs...identical pkging...some say made in japan, some made in taiwan.

VERY small print, but from past discussions on dat-heads etc, ill do the investigating, buy the jap ones, and avoid those made in taiwan if i can.

[Ed.]

all dvd media has to pass the same kind of testing no matter where they're made, what brand they are, etc.  cd media on the other hand doesn't have to pass the same rigorous testing.  thats why it matters what kind of cd media you buy and where its made.

at least that what i've heard from several sources via email lists and message boards.

[RRobar]

I'm on a mac so ripping and burning DVD's is a bit different. If any of you recent mac head converts want software. Try Mac The Ripper for the rip and DVD2oneX for encoding and shrinking to fit on 1 DVD-R. Then use Toast to burn. Easy as pie. In fact I'm backing up Monster's Inc right now.

As far as media goes, I've been having really great luck with the 8x white top inkjet dvd-r's from shop4tech.com $31 for 100 shipped. They are ritek made, I print on all my discs so these work great.

I use DVD-R mostly (all I have right now). But Since DVD+R have gotten to be the same price as DVD-R there's no real reason for me aanymore. My dvd players play both.

[F.O.Bean]

can anyone help me out w/ dvd decryptor

[heath]

what'e the problemo bean?

[F.O.Bean]

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