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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: blu666z on June 17, 2004, 05:51:01 PM

Title: TL > wmod users
Post by: blu666z on June 17, 2004, 05:51:01 PM
Just curious how boomy this combo is going to be.  I don't mind bass as long as it has some detail to it.  Muddy doesn't cut the mustard.  Does the wmod add too much with the large diaphrams?  pmod better?

-Kevin
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: caymanreview on June 17, 2004, 06:59:24 PM
i have a warm mod 410, but have yet to run the TL's with it...

gotta wait untill next weekend
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: creekfreak on June 17, 2004, 09:48:28 PM
The TL's give you nothing but warm phat bass that is nice and tight
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: blu666z on June 17, 2004, 09:51:23 PM
Do I classify as a gear slut for buying a pair of mics that I have never even listened to with the A/DC I have?  ;)

-Kevin
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: hhf32 on June 18, 2004, 12:34:38 AM
Do I classify as a gear slut for buying a pair of mics that I have never even listened to with the A/DC I have?  ;)

-Kevin

This would be a good entry for here  http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=20851.0

LOL
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: Craig T on June 18, 2004, 09:40:31 AM
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=10652
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=4601
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=5298
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=4583
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=9295

all TL>wmod sources.
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: Kindguy on June 18, 2004, 11:06:48 AM
You'll like this combo. The bass is tight.
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: keepongoin on June 18, 2004, 11:22:15 AM
i have a warm mod 410, but have yet to run the TL's with it...

gotta wait untill next weekend

slacker!!1  ;)
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: BCostigan on June 18, 2004, 12:08:49 PM
You'll like this combo. The bass is tight.

Ditto....this setup sounds real nice.  I moved to a V2->sbm-1 behind the TLs in search of a touch more detail and to get the nice grace pre in there too.  TLs->w-mod is one of the best sounding setups out there...IMHO of course! ;)
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: creekfreak on June 18, 2004, 03:00:42 PM
I love the V3--TL sound..IMO
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: olyrc on June 21, 2004, 11:38:14 AM
Do I classify as a gear slut for buying a pair of mics that I have never even listened to with the A/DC I have?  ;)

-Kevin

Yes, you are a slut... but so am I.  (Actually, aren't we all?)

 ;D
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: blu666z on June 21, 2004, 11:46:30 AM
I'll be a slut when I have my deck and can run these.

-Kevin
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: junkbondking on June 21, 2004, 12:21:19 PM
i run this set up and i love it.  even for a louder deeper bass band like mule, the sound is crystal, separated nicely.  imho the tapes i have where the bass is muddy (oteil, disco biscuits) it is the fault of the sound guy. 

for the $$, there is no comparison.  heck you can run the tl -> wmod combo up against a u89 -> v3 and i bet 80% of the tapers out there could not tell the difference.
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: olyrc on June 21, 2004, 12:22:06 PM
I'll be a slut when I have my deck and can run these.

-Kevin

In Beavis's Cornholio voice... "Are you threatening me?"
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: blu666z on June 21, 2004, 12:27:52 PM
What config do most of you all run outside with these?  Think I may use these mainly outside rather than at clubs.  Keep my ATs that I'm happy with for indoors.
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: blu666z on June 21, 2004, 12:32:32 PM

In Beavis's Cornholio voice... "Are you threatening me?"

Yeah man...I'm threatening you on an internet message board in a cartoon voice.  ;)

-Kevin
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: junkbondking on June 21, 2004, 12:35:32 PM
What config do most of you all run outside with these?  Think I may use these mainly outside rather than at clubs.  Keep my ATs that I'm happy with for indoors.

outside i have run the following:

ortf cards
ortf hypers
din card
din hypers

vert xy card
vert xy hypers

inside:
all of the above +
blumein

Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: olyrc on June 21, 2004, 04:08:25 PM

In Beavis's Cornholio voice... "Are you threatening me?"

Yeah man...I'm threatening you on an internet message board in a cartoon voice.  ;)

-Kevin

Smart ass.
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: blu666z on June 21, 2004, 04:19:30 PM
Very true.

-Kevin
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: Brian on June 21, 2004, 04:34:22 PM
haven't run the omni's outside yet jbk? c'mon now!

Kevin,  if yo can swing it, go for the omnis but be prepared for some FAT bass! but in a good way :)   i ran the the TL's for a little bit with the w-mod ua5 before i went V2>modsbm1.  i liked it very much but by the time i had the TL's i was ready for the grace sound ;D  the bass was a lot moer detailed and smooth than the oktavas i had prior. as others said this is a sweet setup and unbeatable for the price IMO.
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: creekfreak on June 21, 2004, 08:54:43 PM
you got to try the omni's...the tapes I did with them sound soooo sweet.
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: creekfreak on June 21, 2004, 08:58:53 PM
and for the record, I have run the TL's

ORTF Cards
DIN Cards
Blumien Fig 8
Omni's split about 3'
Omni's split about 8 inches.

All the tapes sound killer, but l like the Omni's a ton, but no matter how you run them, they sound good
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: Tim on June 21, 2004, 10:28:50 PM
heck you can run the tl -> wmod combo up against a u89 -> v3 and i bet 80% of the tapers out there could not tell the difference.

::)

you shouldn't type on here when you're high...

we'll do a back to back a/b sometime
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: blu666z on June 21, 2004, 10:49:25 PM

you shouldn't type on here when you're high...



Man....can't post when we're at work...can't post when we're high......damn.....when will I ever be able to post.   ;)

-Kevin 
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: junkbondking on June 21, 2004, 11:53:46 PM
heck you can run the tl -> wmod combo up against a u89 -> v3 and i bet 80% of the tapers out there could not tell the difference.

::)

you shouldn't type on here when you're high...

we'll do a back to back a/b sometime

fine.  i'll bring my dueling glove for red rocks.  we can compare off of the chris robinson opener for the first nite.  your german mics don't scare me. :flipa:
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: Todd R on June 22, 2004, 12:25:16 PM
Chris--run those omnis outdoors sometime.  I'm loving the 6/18 Dead omni tape I made.

Also, I'd do the duel out for something other than NEM at the rocks.  I doubt that they'll have the sound dialed in at all for the opening band out of 3.  They'll probably get it set right for one/both of the main acts during soundcheck and will just hope for the best with NEM.
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: Da Boss on June 24, 2004, 10:53:23 AM
I personally wouldn't like that combo!
Lemme explain-TL's have VERY little top end SIZZLE. Solid mid and bass though. Why accentuate it?!?
For the same money, you can get a pair of Studio Project C1 LD's...
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: Brian on June 24, 2004, 02:04:24 PM
little top end sizzle? c'mon now ..... these mics are on the bright side but with a fat and smooth low end to my ears. call me crazy but my frequency respnse chart that have here pretty much backs that up.  TLs>w-mod is a perfect combo IMHO. 

they sound a lot like the 480s only better ;D

as for u89is vs. TL's  jbk might be high, but i think it would be a nice comparison, worth setting up :)
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: nic on June 24, 2004, 02:37:52 PM
I personally wouldn't like that combo!
Lemme explain-TL's have VERY little top end SIZZLE. Solid mid and bass though. Why accentuate it?!?

what? the TLs have a very pronounced high-end sizzle.
there's a good 6-10db boost from about 3.5K->18k

if anything, I would look for a preamp that has a 3-5db boost at about 150h-300h to compensate for the natural dip in the mics
Title: Re: TL > wmod users
Post by: blu666z on July 05, 2004, 12:17:46 PM
Finaly got to run these yesterday for a 4th of July festival.  Got a couple nice jazz bands.  Run at the SBD, cards first set and hypers second.  Can't find much to criticise.  Nice low end but not muddy and fairly well detailed high end.  Nice all around mic.  I do have a constant buzz throughout the first set though.  Gonna do some troubleshooting today but I don't think it is a problem with my mics, but rather caused by how close I was set up to a huge bank of power supplies.

-Kevin