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Title: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: kirk97132 on October 12, 2006, 08:08:28 PM
SO I can't make up my mind.  I'll be running these into a P2  with no external pre(yet).  Pros and cons on these two mic's?  thanx, Kirk

PS:my buddy decide to hang on to his modded nak 700's.  can't say I blame him
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: RebelRebel on October 12, 2006, 08:25:39 PM
Stereo mics are the heat.....but you are limited to coincident techniques..no spaced or near coincident.

I have an AKG 426b, and it is by far my favorite microphone.

Cons of stereo mic--- bulky...coincident techniques only..

C4s--vanilla sound quality, fewer pattern options than the lsd, more time to put up(the stereo mic..you just aim and forget..)







Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: ~~~> on October 12, 2006, 08:47:49 PM
Grab these Kirk and then you have leftover $$ for a pre.   ;D  cards and omnis.  Can't beat that!

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=72325.0
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: Brian Skalinder on October 12, 2006, 10:28:31 PM
Pros and cons on these two mic's?

Small diaphragm condensors (SDC) like the Studio Projects C-4 generally offer greater transient detail, while large diaphragm condensors (LDC) like the Studio ProjectsLSD2 offer a more lush, meaty sound with less transient detail.  Just depends on what kind of sound you're after, depending on your recording situations, playback, and ears.
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: RebelRebel on October 13, 2006, 05:48:18 AM
(http://www.dpamicrophones.com/Images/DM00259.GIF) there is a good general idea of SDC vs LDC
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: Nick's Picks on October 13, 2006, 07:26:37 AM
the LSD doesnt' lack detail in any regard (concerning less transient detail over the c4), so dont let that scare you.

every now and then I think of selling mine, and then listen to some recordings i've made w/it and say "damn"....
I can't think of a better way to spend $500 on this hobby.

stereo mics rock!  and coincident techniques, especialy with LD mics, are where its at!
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: vwmule on October 13, 2006, 11:55:44 AM
Speaking of the donkey dick (as coined by Nick) has anyone picked up the updated model? Looks nicer and supposedly offers minor improvements.
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: Chuck on October 13, 2006, 12:03:59 PM
SO I can't make up my mind.  I'll be running these into a P2  with no external pre(yet).  Pros and cons on these two mic's?  thanx, Kirk

PS:my buddy decide to hang on to his modded nak 700's.  can't say I blame him

Having owned the C4's, but not the LSD2's, I'd agree with Nick. The LSD2 sounds great. I did like the C4's, but I've heard some very nice LSD2 recordings. I am starting to appreciate the the LD microphone sound more and more. Plus, all the pattern choices with the LSD2, make it an easy decision in my mind.
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: Nick's Picks on October 13, 2006, 12:34:36 PM
looks like the upgraded the cable as that one is a screw on and not the normal style "snap in" jobbie.
wonder if they used better stock for it.
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: Low Spark on October 17, 2006, 05:34:01 PM
Ive recently purchased an LSD2 and ran it twice. Ive ran one before several times thats the reason i bought one. I love the sound. cant wait to run a MS. Need to get Nicks silver cable here shortly.
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: Nick's Picks on October 17, 2006, 05:36:04 PM
damn' right you do.
;-)
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: Low Spark on October 17, 2006, 05:38:47 PM
I Am a true beliver in those silver cables. Best sound by far.
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: Nick's Picks on October 17, 2006, 05:41:16 PM
me to.  they brighten and tighten.
:)

i've got the parts for one last cable....
name your length, and no lying!
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: WiFiJeff on October 18, 2006, 09:35:09 AM


I have an AKG 426b, and it is by far my favorite microphone.



So I finally decided this is the bestest upgrade for the LSD2.  But AKG US says it is discontinued.  :(

By the way, Cascade (of recent Fathead Ribbon mic fame) has a single point LD stereo mic listed as coming soon.

Jeff
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: RebelRebel on October 18, 2006, 09:38:04 AM
no..the 422 is discontinued.
http://www.akg.com/products/powerslave,mynodeid,186,id,216,pid,216,_language,EN.html


edit they are discontinued...BUT there is a massive amount of overstock here...I can get you one if you want one Jeff..

just PM me. I get german mics for folks all the time.

Teddy


I have an AKG 426b, and it is by far my favorite microphone.



So I finally decided this is the bestest upgrade for the LSD2.  But AKG US says it is discontinued.  :(

By the way, Cascade (of recent Fathead Ribbon mic fame) has a single point LD stereo mic listed as coming soon.

Jeff
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: thegreatgumbino on October 18, 2006, 09:47:48 AM
no..the 422 is discontinued.
http://www.akg.com/products/powerslave,mynodeid,186,id,216,pid,216,_language,EN.html


edit they are discontinued...BUT there is a massive amount of overstock here...I can get you one if you want one Jeff..

just PM me. I get german mics for folks all the time.

Teddy


I have an AKG 426b, and it is by far my favorite microphone.



So I finally decided this is the bestest upgrade for the LSD2.  But AKG US says it is discontinued.  :(

By the way, Cascade (of recent Fathead Ribbon mic fame) has a single point LD stereo mic listed as coming soon.

Jeff

Hey Teddy-

I didn't realize they discontinued the 426? Or are you confirming that the 422 is discontinued?  What kind of price do the overstock mics go for?

Matt
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: RebelRebel on October 18, 2006, 09:51:41 AM
the 426 AND 422 are discontinued..with no plans to replace the stereo mics.. >:( assholes. the one  modern mic that sounds good from that damn company, they go and kill :P

I asked about overstocked pricing, and told him to reserve me 3 just in case...he is going to email me tommorow(the austrian distro guy)

teddy




no..the 422 is discontinued.
http://www.akg.com/products/powerslave,mynodeid,186,id,216,pid,216,_language,EN.html


edit they are discontinued...BUT there is a massive amount of overstock here...I can get you one if you want one Jeff..

just PM me. I get german mics for folks all the time.

Teddy


I have an AKG 426b, and it is by far my favorite microphone.



So I finally decided this is the bestest upgrade for the LSD2.  But AKG US says it is discontinued.  :(

By the way, Cascade (of recent Fathead Ribbon mic fame) has a single point LD stereo mic listed as coming soon.

Jeff

Hey Teddy-

I didn't realize they discontinued the 426? Or are you confirming that the 422 is discontinued?  What kind of price do the overstock mics go for?

Matt
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: Nick's Picks on October 18, 2006, 10:00:06 AM


I have an AKG 426b, and it is by far my favorite microphone.



So I finally decided this is the bestest upgrade for the LSD2.  But AKG US says it is discontinued.  :(

By the way, Cascade (of recent Fathead Ribbon mic fame) has a single point LD stereo mic listed as coming soon.

Jeff

Having used both, no way does the AKG sound $2k better than the LSD2.
ymmv
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: RebelRebel on October 18, 2006, 10:02:49 AM
have you used the 426??

the stock 422 isnt what it could be(modded is different, like macdaddy has)..but the 426B is the absolute heat.




I have an AKG 426b, and it is by far my favorite microphone.



So I finally decided this is the bestest upgrade for the LSD2.  But AKG US says it is discontinued.  :(

By the way, Cascade (of recent Fathead Ribbon mic fame) has a single point LD stereo mic listed as coming soon.

Jeff

Having used both, no way does the AKG sound $2k better than the LSD2.
ymmv
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: RebelRebel on October 18, 2006, 10:04:47 AM
2 426Bs left in the world..

if anyone wants one, shoot me a PM.

Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: carlbeck on October 19, 2006, 08:36:27 AM
the 426 AND 422 are discontinued..with no plans to replace the stereo mics.. >:( assholes. the one  modern mic that sounds good from that damn company, they go and kill :P

I asked about overstocked pricing, and told him to reserve me 3 just in case...he is going to email me tommorow(the austrian distro guy)

teddy




no..the 422 is discontinued.
http://www.akg.com/products/powerslave,mynodeid,186,id,216,pid,216,_language,EN.html


edit they are discontinued...BUT there is a massive amount of overstock here...I can get you one if you want one Jeff..

just PM me. I get german mics for folks all the time.

Teddy


I have an AKG 426b, and it is by far my favorite microphone.



So I finally decided this is the bestest upgrade for the LSD2.  But AKG US says it is discontinued.  :(

By the way, Cascade (of recent Fathead Ribbon mic fame) has a single point LD stereo mic listed as coming soon.

Jeff

Hey Teddy-

I didn't realize they discontinued the 426? Or are you confirming that the 422 is discontinued?  What kind of price do the overstock mics go for?

Matt


That is just RETARDED! Thanks AKG :'(
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: RebelRebel on October 19, 2006, 08:46:21 AM
ok...they have 3..one is spoken for..

if you want one, hit me up.
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: Low Spark on October 24, 2006, 08:56:04 AM
The more I run my LSD2 the more I like it. I have been looking for that low end and Ive found it. I p;ayed my wsp Macon on the PA at the club the other nite and the guy running sound couldnt believe that the recording came from that mic. It sounds real good. I cant wait to get that silver cable in my hands and broken in. I know its going to only enhance this mic.
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: Nick's Picks on October 24, 2006, 10:57:51 AM
who ever thought 30hz would be so fucking huge sounding...
:)
granted, that is very low.  but w/most of the mics we use being full range and all...
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: paullySC on October 27, 2006, 01:39:38 PM
The more I run my LSD2 the more I like it. I have been looking for that low end and Ive found it. I p;ayed my wsp Macon on the PA at the club the other nite and the guy running sound couldnt believe that the recording came from that mic. It sounds real good. I cant wait to get that silver cable in my hands and broken in. I know its going to only enhance this mic.

I'm still torn between the LSD2 and Pelusos. Is there any sound issues with the LSD2 in tiny or small bars?
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: joekar on October 27, 2006, 08:40:32 PM
Hey Teddy,

 How much are the AKG 426Bs ?.....I can't afford one, since I'm broke  :bawling:....But a man can dream  :zzz:....Thanks

Peace,
jk
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: RebelRebel on October 27, 2006, 08:49:00 PM
Hey Teddy,

 How much are the AKG 426Bs ?.....I can't afford one, since I'm broke  :bawling:....But a man can dream  :zzz:....Thanks

Peace,
jk

well, they are discontinued, but I just bought two of the last 3 for about 3,000 Euros per. there is one more left in AKG land...after that..bye bye AKG stereo mic legacy.  >:(

if you want the last one, I can get it for you..2975 EUR. I bought MY personal 426b for 2500 , but that was a steal. They used to retail for 5500 USD..

teddy
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: RebelRebel on October 27, 2006, 08:57:58 PM
brand new, direct from the factory. Never been touched.


well, they are discontinued, but I just bought two of the last 3 for about 3,000 Euros per. there is one more left in AKG land...after that..bye bye AKG stereo mic legacy.  >:(

if you want the last one, I can get it for you..2975 EUR. I bought MY personal 426b for 2500 , but that was a steal. They used to retail for 5500 USD..

teddy
is the last one brand new or used teddy?

edit: i found three more new ones, a little more expensive than 2975 euro though.  http://tinyurl.com/yesphb
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: RebelRebel on October 27, 2006, 09:00:16 PM
cool!! thats a GREAT price.  +t

Yessir! I hope someone snags it! If not, i may have to get it..I dont want to see it go to waste.

Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: Low Spark on October 27, 2006, 09:22:53 PM
The more I run my LSD2 the more I like it. I have been looking for that low end and Ive found it. I p;ayed my wsp Macon on the PA at the club the other nite and the guy running sound couldnt believe that the recording came from that mic. It sounds real good. I cant wait to get that silver cable in my hands and broken in. I know its going to only enhance this mic.

I'm still torn between the LSD2 and Pelusos. Is there any sound issues with the LSD2 in tiny or small bars?

I own both Peluso and LSD2 Just getting in the rounds with both mics here in charlotte. I love them both so far the Peluso w subs is the bomb so far. A few more shows with both and ill be able to judge more.
Title: Re: c4 VS lsd2
Post by: joekar on October 27, 2006, 09:30:24 PM
I wish I could.....but I'll just have to drool for now....Damn taxes and bills..every month .....month after month.....they keep sending them and I keep paying them.........I wonder ? ...If I stop paying them will they stop sending them.....I doubt it....Thanks anyway...

Peace,
jk