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Schoeps SGC Clips
« on: July 03, 2011, 03:14:47 PM »
Two questions:

1) If I'm using SGC clips with my actives, what's the best way to add shock protection? Very much used to running on a kwon/nola/schoeps bar with a Shure doughnut, but will use the SGC clips and a K&M t-bar if I want to run pointed at stacked.

2) Best way to run these  >:D in-hat. I saw that Kind Kables used to sell this, but it just doesn't make sense to me how this would work. Makes me really miss my 4v's. PM me on this one plz.

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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2011, 09:43:32 AM »
Maybe get a Vark bar? The post on the Vark bar will fit into an A20 or Shure donut and makes for a pretty low profile setup.
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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2011, 10:45:29 AM »
I use a vark/delrin bar inserted in a Superlux HM-32 shockmount with extra o-rings for stability.  Very low-pro.



 
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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2011, 11:00:45 AM »
John W's response is how I did it.  The donut is attached to a windtech or something similar.  Clamp your windtech to your stand.  The Vark/SGC assembly has a several inch long riser bar inserted into the center of the Vark bar.  The riser is inserted into the donut and the entire assembly is collectively shock mounted with a single donut.

As far as in-hat goes, I personally decided that keeping strict angles intact was out the window because I didn't want bars and crap sitting on top of my head.  I went with a navy blue Kangol Ventair and lots of velcro sewn inside with a matching thread color...the more velcro strategically placed, the firmer the whole thing is held in place.  I can get the capsules positioned on my forehead forward of my temples so that it is approximately XY110.

A note about velcro...I prefer the wider and I think the more you have on the inside of your hat the better and firmer the whole thing is held in place.  DO NOT buy the self stick velcro with the sticky crap on the back.  Basically you can't sew through it because that sticky crap causes your sewing or machine needle to bung all up.

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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2011, 11:26:44 AM »
Thanks guys!

So I'm guessing the riser bar is pictured here in Brian's M/S setup thread? Looks like I would just need to angle the A20 or my superclamp by 90 degrees to get it upright. :)

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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2011, 11:30:46 AM »
Can anyone post in this forum how I can cheat on my taxes?
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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2011, 11:46:39 AM »
Can anyone post in this forum how I can cheat on my taxes?

it varies by state. :P
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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2011, 11:48:44 AM »
Thanks but I'm looking for specifics.  8)
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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2011, 12:09:12 PM »
You can cheat on your taxes in whatever way you want...it's simple.  Getting away with it is another thing altogether.

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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2011, 12:14:54 PM »
So to get back on track, will a Vark bar riser work with the k&m bar (same thread size)? I'm sure I can use an adapter, so that question may not matter. Is there a Vark bar riser alternative?

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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2011, 12:15:45 PM »
So I'm guessing the riser bar is pictured here in Brian's M/S setup thread? Looks like I would just need to angle the A20 or my superclamp by 90 degrees to get it upright. :)

Yes, that's the riser bar in Brian's pics. 

You'd either need to put the A20 at 90 degrees, or if you use a windtech clamp to secure the mount to your stand, you can secure the windtech 5/8" stud in either the straight or 90 degree position. 

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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2011, 12:23:25 PM »
So to get back on track, will a Vark bar riser work with the k&m bar (same thread size)? I'm sure I can use an adapter, so that question may not matter. Is there a Vark bar riser alternative?

Pretty sure K&M is a 5/8 hole and Vark is 3/8 thread so you'd need an adapter.
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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2011, 12:24:23 PM »
So to get back on track, will a Vark bar riser work with the k&m bar (same thread size)? I'm sure I can use an adapter, so that question may not matter. Is there a Vark bar riser alternative?

I'd think a home brew alternative would be fairly simple.  So the mount you'd use is an A20.  Seems like that's made for a 20mm or 21mm diameter mic body (is that why it's call A20?).  Pretty close to 3/4inch.  You could probably jury rig something from Home Depot/Lowes using 3/4in PVC and epoxy or something similar.  Just take your K&M bar to the store and get the hardware that threads in properly.  Might also want to take your mount to make sure whatever you get fits into it easy enough.  I'd think the shure donut would be a really handy alternative that's not quite as size dependent.
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Re: Schoeps SGC Clips
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2011, 04:25:47 PM »
I was wondering why you would want to mount with these clips, on a stand when there are so many bars available and they are dialed?  i have only used the clips to split my omnis, and have broken a few pairs, to the point i just run bodies now.  i can understand if you rig up a good stealth set up, and would love to see that, offline of course, cause we are not even supposed to type stealth on TS.  thanks! 

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