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Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« on: January 11, 2012, 02:01:52 PM »
I've been doing some searching for shock mounts for my KM140's.  I've found the following Sennheiser shock mount which looks like it might suit.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/73119-REG/Sennheiser_MZS6_MZS6_Microphone_Shock_Mount.html

It's made for the K6 which is 22mm diameter, same as the 184/KM100's.  Any experience with these mounts?
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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2012, 03:42:09 PM »
I'd consider spending a bit more and getting Rycote INV-6s, which fit a variety of mic sizes (including 140s, which I've tested with them).

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554998-REG/Rycote_041106_INV_6_InVision_Indoor_Microphone.html
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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2012, 05:53:59 PM »
I'd consider spending a bit more and getting Rycote INV-6s, which fit a variety of mic sizes (including 140s, which I've tested with them).

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554998-REG/Rycote_041106_INV_6_InVision_Indoor_Microphone.html

I would spend less and get the Rycote INV-6.

The Rycote InVision series are vastly better and are actually cheaper - in the UK at least.

And the Rycote is better than the original Neumann.


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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 05:59:11 PM »
I'd consider spending a bit more and getting Rycote INV-6s, which fit a variety of mic sizes (including 140s, which I've tested with them).

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554998-REG/Rycote_041106_INV_6_InVision_Indoor_Microphone.html

I would spend less and get the Rycote INV-6.

The Rycote InVision series are vastly better and are actually cheaper - in the UK at least.

And the Rycote is better than the original Neumann.

Both AJ and John are right. The Rycote mounts are fantastic and something that many people on this forum will attest to. Personally, I would not get anything else.

If you wanted to run the active cables (not sure if you have them), the INV-7 INV-5 would probably work for those as well.
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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 05:59:41 PM »
I'd consider spending a bit more and getting Rycote INV-6s, which fit a variety of mic sizes (including 140s, which I've tested with them).

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554998-REG/Rycote_041106_INV_6_InVision_Indoor_Microphone.html

I would spend less and get the Rycote INV-6.

The Rycote InVision series are vastly better and are actually cheaper - in the UK at least.

And the Rycote is better than the original Neumann.

John, I believe the mount he linked to is $40/ea, whereas the Rycote INV-6 retails for $62/ea in the U.S.

Either way, I agree it's the better mount :)
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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 09:41:18 PM »
Those InVisions look badass, but theyre just not lo-pro enuf for me :(

And what about a Busman shock on the cheap. He makes them for 20mm AND 22mm mics ;)
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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 10:46:03 PM »
Great suggestions.  Thanks fellas.   :coolguy:
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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2012, 05:59:01 AM »
Those InVisions look badass, but theyre just not lo-pro enuf for me :(

Then look at the INV-2 or 3.

These are much smaller than the INV-4 upwards.

The larger INV-4/5/6/7/8/9/10 are designed to be thrown about on a fish-pole, the smaller INV-1/2/3 are designed more for studio use and are much smaller (and just as effective).




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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2012, 07:52:13 AM »
That pic looks pretty sexy.  And the cable clip.  Wow.   >:D

Looking forward to getting these delivered soon....
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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2012, 11:33:48 AM »
How rigid is the clip that holds the mic?  Is it rigid enough that there's no mic sagging but flexible enough to adequately provide sound isolation from shocks to the mic stand? 

If the mic stand falls over, what are the chances that lyre piece will crack or break?

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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 03:20:21 PM »
I have the inv-7.  These are with out a doubt the best shocks I have ever had.  Rock solid.  Provides excellent shock, no sag, always goes right back to center when jostled, no chance of mic slipping out of shock....I will never own anything but inv....

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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2012, 03:41:12 PM »
How rigid is the clip that holds the mic?  Is it rigid enough that there's no mic sagging but flexible enough to adequately provide sound isolation from shocks to the mic stand? 

If the mic stand falls over, what are the chances that lyre piece will crack or break?


Best sound isolation I've ever encountered.   The inner ring or "clip" is harder and more rigid, the outer section or "lyre" is very flexible. 

The clip would handle a fall as well as any non-metal shockmount I've seen.
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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 03:54:53 PM »
How rigid is the clip that holds the mic?  Is it rigid enough that there's no mic sagging but flexible enough to adequately provide sound isolation from shocks to the mic stand? 

If the mic stand falls over, what are the chances that lyre piece will crack or break?


Best sound isolation I've ever encountered.   The inner ring or "clip" is harder and more rigid, the outer section or "lyre" is very flexible. 

The clip would handle a fall as well as any non-metal shockmount I've seen.

Thank you.  Or not.  This thread might end up costing me $130 or so some day soon.

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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2012, 04:41:03 PM »
How rigid is the clip that holds the mic?  Is it rigid enough that there's no mic sagging but flexible enough to adequately provide sound isolation from shocks to the mic stand? 

If the mic stand falls over, what are the chances that lyre piece will crack or break?


Best sound isolation I've ever encountered.   The inner ring or "clip" is harder and more rigid, the outer section or "lyre" is very flexible. 

The clip would handle a fall as well as any non-metal shockmount I've seen.

Thank you.  Or not.  This thread might end up costing me $130 or so some day soon.

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Re: Neumann KM-184/KM100 Shock mount/mic clip alternative
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2012, 12:12:14 AM »
How rigid is the clip that holds the mic?  Is it rigid enough that there's no mic sagging but flexible enough to adequately provide sound isolation from shocks to the mic stand? 

If the mic stand falls over, what are the chances that lyre piece will crack or break?


Best sound isolation I've ever encountered.   The inner ring or "clip" is harder and more rigid, the outer section or "lyre" is very flexible. 

The clip would handle a fall as well as any non-metal shockmount I've seen.

Thank you.  Or not.  This thread might end up costing me $130 or so some day soon.

Yeah, same here!
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