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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: Erlend on September 15, 2007, 08:13:24 AM

Title: 1 rode nt4, vs two c1000s, which to choose ?
Post by: Erlend on September 15, 2007, 08:13:24 AM

I`m looking for a good mic for my jb3 + denecke ad20 with an optic cable.

So my choice stands between buying one rode NT4 and two c1000s. I think i`ll choose the NT4, since it seems to be the most practical choice.

But how good is it for recording voice and piano? Im a classical singer, and it will be used for concerts and lessons. And do you know if there exists a table stand for the NT4 ?

also, i am looking for a bag to keep the equipment in. do you have any suggestions ? the dream would be if i could keep most of the equipment connected and ready to use IN the bag.. !

Thanks for all Help!

Erlend Hermansen, östervåla Sweden

Title: Re: 1 rode nt4, vs two c1000s, which to choose ?
Post by: SmokinJoe on September 16, 2007, 10:54:40 PM

My friend (wheresjerry) has an NT4, and it pulls some pretty good tapes... but there are all ambient concert recordings, not close-micing.  So it's a good mic an general, but I'm not sure about your particular application.

Title: Re: 1 rode nt4, vs two c1000s, which to choose ?
Post by: digifish_music on September 17, 2007, 01:44:47 AM

Quote from: SmokinJoe on September 16, 2007, 10:54:40 PM

My friend (wheresjerry) has an NT4, and it pulls some pretty good tapes... but there are all ambient concert recordings, not close-micing.  So it's a good mic an general, but I'm not sure about your particular application.

The NT-4 is arguably better for close micing than distant stuff.

Here are the catches...

Con: The fixed 90 degree coincident pattern can be a limiting factor on occasion,

Pro: The convenience of the fixed pattern in one mic makes it quick to set up.

Con: It's heavy and you can have trouble finding suspensions etc to hold it firmly. I have the official Rode C3 mount with the rubber-bands and it droops a bit in that.

Pro: It's built like a tank

Pro: It's excellent for close micing acoustic instruments including guitars, piano, ensembles (near micing? :) and foley etc...I also use the NT-4 occasionally on ambient/nature work as it is quiet.

Con: I find the stereo imaging a little narrow at times (Y config is better for that), depends on what you are recording.

Pro: Has internal 9V battery that lasts for ages...no need for 48V phantom...although you can run it on that too if you have it and get some more
headroom.

Neutral: I have a Sound Devices MixPre and they are a match made in heaven.

Alternative: You have the option of a pair of NT5s, same capsules, in single pencil bodies.

Summary: If you can't get a good recording out of an NT4 then you should give up. A stereo pair offers more flexibility :)

Here's an idea: Buy a pair of Behringer C2 stereo mics ($80), some with stereo-bar, mounts etc...totally amazing kit for the money. Then you can experiment with a stereo pair on the cheap and decide if you want to upgrade. I have a pair of these for dangerous assignments...like putting in plastic bags and dangling them into the sea...etc. I think everyone should have a pair in their cabinet :P

NT4 Demos...

Close mic steel acoustic...

http://www.rodemic.com/?pagename=Media_Portal&primary_category=Artist%20Video&secondary_category=NT4&product_name=Acoustic_Guitar&filename=Portal-Video/Artist%20Video%20HIGH/NT4-Acoustic.wmv

Close mic vocals + guitar + others...creative use of the 90 degree config for the lead vocalsit :)

http://www.rodemic.com/?pagename=Media_Portal&primary_category=Artist%20Video&secondary_category=NT4&product_name=3-Piece&filename=Portal-Video/Artist%20Video%20HIGH/NT4-3PieceA.wmv

Distant mic piano + vocals...probably useful as a reverberant mix.

http://www.rodemic.com/?pagename=Media_Portal&primary_category=Artist%20Video&secondary_category=NT4&product_name=Classical_Vocals&filename=Portal-Video/Artist%20Video%20HIGH/NT4-Classical.wmv


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